Because you were too busy nitpicking to see the point.

I was addressing the OP's criticism of the WiiU by saying that Nintendo games and consoles don't have the best numbers, despite the game quality.
Because new IP's (like uncharted, and I dunno, the 20 or so that have also outsold zelda) outsell many nintendo games, and this is not just currently, but historically accurate as well.

You can't say WiiU and it's games are of low quality and point to the sales of the console as evidence. Nintendo has a history of low support among the fanbase, outside of 1 or 2 mario franchises.

Problem with the audience? It's more or less nintendo's fault for not making appealing games for gamers today instead of for gamers in the 90's.  Those games are not popular anymore or well known/beloved except for in nintendo's ever decreasing fan base. It would be fairly easy for 'em to change things but the leadership in the company is stubborn beyond a fault. People buy consoles that they think will (or does) have the games they want to play.  Apparently, nintendo is not that console. I like some of their games but it doesn't justify the purchase of a console for a handful of games that I would like. 

Okay, I sort of see your point (forgive me, but the way you are wording some things have been making your point quite confusing), but I think that is downplaying the sales that a lot of Nintendo games get... 5+mil is nothing to sneeze at, regardless of whether other games have sold better.

It just feels like a non-point to me.

It's no problem, I was talking to three different people so the message was a little blurry.

Shokio has called into question his integrity by defending Meta-critic.
Nintendo's system isn't selling well because it's games are pretty "samey". Splatoon is a new IP with a new take on team based shooters. I like that but, what else do they have up their sleeve... Nothings coming to Wii U (or 3DS) but a ton of reamakes, rehases, rereleases and copies of other games via retail and the e-Shop. So why would people by Mario Party 9?

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im not saying the gaming market consumers are wrong, im saying nintendo fans dont support their franchises. But im glad u replied because theres another point to address here. And the issue is that nintendo does make great gameplay, but they havent done enough. The marios and zeldas and metrpids of the future are going to be made by independant devs. The one thing that separates indies from studios in the current era, is the funding. And even that is changing.
Look at the examples I put forth. Gta halo cod uncharted.
These are games with almost limitless monetary backing. And the sales show.
these kinds of games are the style nowadays.
and the problem definitely resides within the nintendo fanbase.
you don't have to look any further than new super mario wii and ds.
One commercial with that first level and boom, the fans eat it right up.
and thats because nintendo has won the hearts of thier consumers, but not the passion.
there is passion for those other franchises because they wow the current market. And that will change too eventually, but nintendo fans dont go out and buy the new Zelda. They go out and buy their first zelda.

It comes down to this, people just like the PS4, it has the games that they want to play, it's where most people want to play, it's where their friends play, it's not under powered compared to the competition, in fact it's the most powerful console based system and it wasn't overpriced for what it's packing.
All of this has made it The Games Console of the generation and that's just how things are!

As far as games go, the exclusive titles released so far have been fine, Knack is good IMO, same goes for Killzone and Infamous, I've played all three and don't get the hatred, largely I think it comes from people that haven't played those titles, because many people that have played them see them as good games, while maybe they have their flaws, they're good fun and that's what gaming is all about.

Mainly people care about 3rd party anyway, that's the audience that has bought into PS4 for the most part and Wii U doesn't have those games, in many ways it is the absolute opposite of PS4 and that's why people haven't gone for Nintendo.
Personally I will buy a Wii U when Zelda and Starfox come out, those are the gateway games for me, with other, already released titles being a library of content I would like to sink my teeth into, I honestly can't say the same of the XB1, it has nothing that really interests me and likely won't until well into 2016, maybe even 2017.

I really don't get how these people can't grasp why the situation in the console market is the way it is, it's so obvious and the only reason I can think of is that these people just don't want to face the truth that people simply aren't that interested in a system that hasn't catered to the market's needs.

PC gamers may think that if 3rd party is what the PS4's audience wants, then why haven't they bought a gaming rig? It's because those people don't consider the PC in their options, it's not something that appeals to them, they like the simple plug and play nature of a console, many aren't technically or technologically minded, they just want a box that plays the games they want and they haven't got to deal with drivers, making sure their specs work with the console and every one of their friends is gaming at the same level, in the same environment as them, they aren't PC gamers.

A lot of it simply has to do with your mates playing on a PS4, so you buy one as well.

The Wii sold really well because Nintendo was selling to a new crowd. The Wii U isn't selling to a new crowd, they are selling to the Gamecube/N64 crowd, the only difference is that Nintendo was very profitable during their N64/Gamecube years.

Using a phone? I'm glad that I noticed your reply. Personally, I don't believe in supporting a series or a dev whenever a game comes out unless I'm geniunely interested in that game. I have to disagree with you on "supporting". It's a bad idea/habit.

It's up to the devs/publishers to make a game that will appeal to me and to market it to me. If they don't then I won't buy it. Nintendo has forgotten that proverbial truth. I'm not married to 'em. Neither is any gamer. We're not gonna support them through thick and thin. The games need to be appealing or they won't sell well. If the games aren't appealing then the console won't sell.

Yes, nintendo needs to market their games/console but first they need something to market. How about a lot of new IP's that appeal to adults outside of the nintendo fanbase? Xbone is not that far out of reach for 'em. 

Just for clarification, I don't play any games from these series anymore because the individual games don't appeal to me and haven't evolved as a series for the most part. Cod, assassin's creed, battlefield, zelda, mario related games, god of war, elder scrolls/fallout (if they keep releasing glitchy & broken), devil may cry, resident evil. That's all I can think of at the moment. Yes, I don't play a lot of the 3rd party games from established series. I used to play 'em but the fundamental issues I had with the games never changed or that the series just got boring over time. 

I would argue that the Wii U is a mix of those two systems. If it were a GameCube 2 so to speak it would have been on par with X1, had a traditional controller and had solid third party support.

Nintendo wanted both markets and is struggling in both.  I do agree though it would have served them better (in retrospect) to try and have lower prices Wii HD for $200 day one.