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GTAexpert on 10 February 2015
curl-6 said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Pardon my late response...

If CoD on Wii U struggles to achieve 300K then there simply isn't much of a reason to put multiplat core games on Wii U. Maybe you'll argue those were sloppy ports but the masses don't know that and the Wii ports were worse due to technical limitations.

Exclusive 3rd party Wii U games done okay but that's simply because people don't have other options. If Bayonetta 2 was on PS4 and X1 as well the Wii U version would have sold a fraction.

Why is this even a debate? The Wii U is selling poorly, core gamers probably felt burned on OG Wii, so that audience flocked to X1 and PS4 in record numbers.

Gamers today read up on which is the better version of a game. And lateness has even more of an impact.

LEGO City is about the only mainstream exclusive (that's not a Nintendo property) of solid quality, and it sold pretty well.

Third parties could have sold better on Wii U; for the most part, they fumbled the opportunity to do so with either late and/or bad games.

The COD games on Wii U were not late or bad ports and were mainstream but they still didn't sell. Third parties have no way to sell better on Wii U if they are multiplat games.



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curl-6 on 10 February 2015
GTAexpert said:
curl-6 said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Pardon my late response...

If CoD on Wii U struggles to achieve 300K then there simply isn't much of a reason to put multiplat core games on Wii U. Maybe you'll argue those were sloppy ports but the masses don't know that and the Wii ports were worse due to technical limitations.

Exclusive 3rd party Wii U games done okay but that's simply because people don't have other options. If Bayonetta 2 was on PS4 and X1 as well the Wii U version would have sold a fraction.

Why is this even a debate? The Wii U is selling poorly, core gamers probably felt burned on OG Wii, so that audience flocked to X1 and PS4 in record numbers.

Gamers today read up on which is the better version of a game. And lateness has even more of an impact.

LEGO City is about the only mainstream exclusive (that's not a Nintendo property) of solid quality, and it sold pretty well.

Third parties could have sold better on Wii U; for the most part, they fumbled the opportunity to do so with either late and/or bad games.

The COD games on Wii U were not late or bad ports and were mainstream but they still didn't sell. Third parties have no way to sell better on Wii U if they are multiplat games.

The COD games on Wii U were shredded on Digital Foundry for not meeting the 60fps expected of the franchise. Also, BO2 promised DLC but didn't deliver (at least not until a year and a half later) so the Nintendo COD community was very disenchanted. 



Mr Puggsly on 11 February 2015
curl-6 said:

Gamers today read up on which is the better version of a game. And lateness has even more of an impact.

LEGO City is about the only mainstream exclusive (that's not a Nintendo property) of solid quality, and it sold pretty well.

Third parties could have sold better on Wii U; for the most part, they fumbled the opportunity to do so with either late and/or bad games.

Yeah, gamers have always read about which version is better. Does that mean the vast majority of gamers are reading that stuff? Nope. People on forums seem to forget we are not the average consumer.

Lego City was an exclusive so people who want to play it didn't have options outside of Wii U. Furthermore, a game like that obviously appeals to the Nintendo audience. What next? Are you gonna boast about Just Dance?

The Wii U is the actual fumble. 3rd parties didn't put much of a focus on Wii U because Nintendo failed to make people care about the Wii U. Nintendo has a lot of money I hear, perhaps they should have bought some ports to boost their userbase. In my opinion, Sony and MS are more involved with their 3rd party support because they care about that audience and Nintendo simply does not.



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Mr Puggsly on 11 February 2015
curl-6 said:

The COD games on Wii U were shredded on Digital Foundry for not meeting the 60fps expected of the franchise. Also, BO2 promised DLC but didn't deliver (at least not until a year and a half later) so the Nintendo COD community was very disenchanted. 

If people could tolerate CoD on OG Wii then I don't understand why the Wii U version was unacceptable. The Playstation Vita CoD has its own issues and still sold better than the superior CoD games on Wii U.

I think the OG Wii community became disenchanted and jumped ship to Xbox an Playstation.



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curl-6 on 11 February 2015
Mr Puggsly said:
curl-6 said:

Gamers today read up on which is the better version of a game. And lateness has even more of an impact.

LEGO City is about the only mainstream exclusive (that's not a Nintendo property) of solid quality, and it sold pretty well.

Third parties could have sold better on Wii U; for the most part, they fumbled the opportunity to do so with either late and/or bad games.

Yeah, gamers have always read about which version is better. Does that mean the vast majority of gamers are reading that stuff? Nope. People on forums seem to forget we are not the average consumer.

Lego City was an exclusive so people who want to play it didn't have options outside of Wii U. Furthermore, a game like that obviously appeals to the Nintendo audience. What next? Are you gonna boast about Just Dance?

The Wii U is the actual fumble. 3rd parties didn't put much of a focus on Wii U because Nintendo failed to make people care about the Wii U. Nintendo has a lot of money I hear, perhaps they should have bought some ports to boost their userbase. In my opinion, Sony and MS are more involved with their 3rd party support because they care about that audience and Nintendo simply does not.

The kind of gamers who would buy those games are the kind who read that stuff.

And you're moving the goalposts. Exclusives still count. So do games that aren't drenched in blood and swearing.

Nintendo's mistakes don't dismiss the failure of third parties. It was still possible to sell; they just didn't manage to do so.



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curl-6 on 11 February 2015
Mr Puggsly said:
curl-6 said:

The COD games on Wii U were shredded on Digital Foundry for not meeting the 60fps expected of the franchise. Also, BO2 promised DLC but didn't deliver (at least not until a year and a half later) so the Nintendo COD community was very disenchanted. 

If people could tolerate CoD on OG Wii then I don't understand why the Wii U version was unacceptable. The Playstation Vita CoD has its own issues and still sold better than the superior CoD games on Wii U.

I think the OG Wii community became disenchanted and jumped ship to Xbox an Playstation.

A Wii multiplat and a Wii U multiplat aren't held to the same standard. Expectations were raised, and the games didn't meet them.

As for Vita, some userbases seem to tolerate weak third party efforts more than others.



johnsobas on 11 February 2015

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GTAexpert on 11 February 2015
curl-6 said:
GTAexpert said:
curl-6 said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Pardon my late response...

If CoD on Wii U struggles to achieve 300K then there simply isn't much of a reason to put multiplat core games on Wii U. Maybe you'll argue those were sloppy ports but the masses don't know that and the Wii ports were worse due to technical limitations.

Exclusive 3rd party Wii U games done okay but that's simply because people don't have other options. If Bayonetta 2 was on PS4 and X1 as well the Wii U version would have sold a fraction.

Why is this even a debate? The Wii U is selling poorly, core gamers probably felt burned on OG Wii, so that audience flocked to X1 and PS4 in record numbers.

Gamers today read up on which is the better version of a game. And lateness has even more of an impact.

LEGO City is about the only mainstream exclusive (that's not a Nintendo property) of solid quality, and it sold pretty well.

Third parties could have sold better on Wii U; for the most part, they fumbled the opportunity to do so with either late and/or bad games.

The COD games on Wii U were not late or bad ports and were mainstream but they still didn't sell. Third parties have no way to sell better on Wii U if they are multiplat games.

The COD games on Wii U were shredded on Digital Foundry for not meeting the 60fps expected of the franchise. Also, BO2 promised DLC but didn't deliver (at least not until a year and a half later) so the Nintendo COD community was very disenchanted. 

Dude I don't even know what to say to you.  There will always be some difference between different versions of a game. The framerate may not be 60fps but its fun to play like on other consoles. I know because my friend who owns a Wii U bought BO II and Ghosts for Wii U and enjoyed its controls more than the PS3 version and thought it was just as fluid though he didn't like that the online community was so small on Wii U.



curl-6 on 11 February 2015
GTAexpert said:

Dude I don't even know what to say to you.  There will always be some difference between different versions of a game. The framerate may not be 60fps but its fun to play like on other consoles. I know because my friend who owns a Wii U bought BO II and Ghosts for Wii U and enjoyed its controls more than the PS3 version and thought it was just as fluid though he didn't like that the online community was so small on Wii U.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the controls too; in fact, I own both Black Ops II and Ghosts for Wii U.

But I realize I don't represent the average gamer, or even the average Nintendo COD audience.



Clyde32 on 11 February 2015
megafenix said:
Not bad, but how much have they sold already?
the last report indicated somthing around the 500k


In the US only.