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Yes 39 14.83%
 
No 168 63.88%
 
Maybe 56 21.29%
 
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Mystro-Sama on 18 January 2015
DucksUnlimited said:
Mystro-Sama said:
 


Probably not but does it have to be?

How else would you propose they buy it?


Give them a good offer?



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DucksUnlimited on 18 January 2015
Mystro-Sama said:


Give them a good offer?

So because Sega isn't looking to sell, Nintendo should go out of their way to offer more than it's worth for a niche IP that sells poorly and doesn't push hardware? I'm not really seeing the business sense in that decision.



Frogger on 18 January 2015

What? Look, Bayonetta is a better franchise than gameplay-wise God of War, but there's absolutely no way it can compete in mass appeal. If Nintendo wants an answer to God of War, they need make a new one themselves, and it needs to be made for western audiences. Bayonetta 2 doesn't cut it.



oniyide on 18 January 2015
generic-user-1 said:
Darwinianevolution said:
Bayoneta 2 was funded because nintendo wanted to prove the WiiU was going to be more dedicated to the hardcore audience than the Wii.


well we got resi 4 because nintendo wanted to prove the same about the GC...

did it work back then?



Areym on 18 January 2015
sundin13 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Have you actually played the trilogy? All three games literally finish where the other leaves off. Its like a thread. Anyone who is smart and played the third knows the game isnt over. After the third was over it lead to the biggest conversation over what will happen next in the series with Athena.


That doesn't make the story any better, it just dissolves into murder murder murder blood blood rage after the first game...I've heard more people laughing at how ridiculously caricatured Kratos is than people actually praising the story. Its just a messy excuse for cool setpieces...

Extra Credits video on the GoW trilogy's story:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtgA6SaHHa0

GoW doesn't pretend to be a masterpiece of story-telling, it knows what it is and people it for what it is. The story is good, I wouldn't call it great or amazing, but it holds up well. Bayonetta's story isn't any better, or DmC's for that matter (The reboot, not sure about the other ones)



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mjk45 on 18 January 2015
sundin13 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

God of War is just an exaggerated homage to what Greek mythology was. Based on a screwed up family who controlled the balance of how things worked on the planet above the likes of human kind while struggling with Titans. Kratos is just a character whose story is a mixture of hercules and other characters. This could easily be recreated and people would believe it because Zeus was a whore of a god, who caused bastard children to be born. It gave birth to the notion of a hero, because of course gods cannot be heroes. This is the reason why heroes (Yes..heroes) like Kratos, Perseus, Hercules and others had to exist. Heroes did what had to be done, bloody and all...not what was right. Kratos is a homage to that truth. People have a romanticized view of Greek mythology just as they do with Disney movies until they read the actual Grimms brothers tales. If you want a fucked up TV show about dystunctional families look no further than Greek Mythology.

The idea of a superhero comes from Greek mythology but is a romanticized American idealized version of it, no different than Disney stories which were much darker than one would've thought. Do you think little kids would've been allowed to watch Snow White if they knew the Queen had Snow White become a fugitive because she wanted to kill her and consume her heart, thus claiming the beauty of her essence?

I don't think any of us will argue that Greek Mythology is cool, but that doesn't make God of War a good representation or a good story. If anything, it just shows how GoW piggybacked off of something much better to allow it to get acclaim for its story

God of War is a weak story (and Kratos is a weak character) with some cool lore

Kratos is what he is ,Jaffe created God of War around the dynamic of playing a character that had an unquenchable rage .



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Areym on 18 January 2015
captain carot said:
Areym said:
I think Bayonetta is as good as God of War gameplay wise, obviously GoW will always come out on top in graphics which is important to some, others, not so much. (although I don't like Bayonetta's overly sexual tones, it's just eye-rolling for me) Greek Mythos appeals to me more than whatever Bayo's story/world is.


Just to point one thing out, it is funny that people are arguing about overly sexual female characters. It's not like male characters, especially Kratos, arent. That chracter is 296% gender cliche, just for western audience.

Bayonetta is cliche as hell, but with lots of humour.


It is quite funny to see people always point out, how overdone Bayonetta and at the same time ignore the same stuff with male, western characters in many games, that are often totally free of humour and self irony.

 

As for the OP: Plain no. Bayonetta 2 wasn't the answer to God of War.

It was just a great opportunity to fund a game for the hardcore audience. To bad to many gamers prefer to ignore a great game and keep on lamenting how it could have looked on another platform instead of buy and play a game, that would have never, ever existed without Nintendo.

When I look at kratos, I don't think sexy or seductive. I think of rage incarnate. I know Bayonetta was made to be more "cartoony" in a sense, exaggerated in a humorous and sexy way.

Male characters are made to be the badass/suave every guy wants to be, so I don't understand why SOME female leads are made to be so focused on their sex appeal. I mean I know why, cause sex sells and Japan has a tendency to be "perverted" in the eyes of many. There are lots of strong women in gaming, especially recently (Lara Croft, Ellie, Clementine, Female Shepard, the chick from Mirror's Edge, etc) Personally, I don't like overly sexually leads, that's just my preference and I don't speak for everybody.

To sidetrack a bit, It is also why I dislike excessive "Fan-service" in animes. When they make "humorous" panty shots, raunchy camera angles, clothing "malfunctions", etc. I don't like strong, sexual themes in my animes/games because they pull me out of the experience, personally. It's hard to explain, I just dislike it. It's the same thing with Bayo. Her raunch nature just puts me off.

 



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FentonCrackshell on 18 January 2015

I'd never think to draw a comparison between God Of War and Beyonetta. Other than buttons must be pressed in order to play each game.



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fluky-nintendy on 18 January 2015

I think Bayo 2 was Nintendo's cry for attention, a flag telling hardcore gamers that turned their backs on Nintendo consoles that the WiiU now has adult games too.



...Let the Sony Domination continue with the PS4...
sundin13 on 18 January 2015
Areym said:

GoW doesn't pretend to be a masterpiece of story-telling


Apparently some of its fans do though

mjk45 said:

Kratos is what he is ,Jaffe created God of War around the dynamic of playing a character that had an unquenchable rage .


Maybe in GoW 1, but afterwards (after Jaffe stopped working on the game), it just became a parody or caricature...Kratos is not a good character, he is a joke