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dyremose on 10 January 2015

The day nintendo goes 3rd party will be a big win for the consumer.



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DerNebel on 10 January 2015
forest-spirit said:
DerNebel said:
 

Honestly Playstation and Xbox do have a place, because they offer platforms on which not only they but all third parties are making money on, tons of money, they are viable platforms for the whole industry.

Nintendos platforms on the other hand are largely completely financially unviable for the industry aside from Nintendo, so if nobody but Nintendo makes money on their systems (and that is basically the case with the Wii U) and if Nintendo struggles to make money on the hardware itself, then one has to wonder why they don't just ditch the hardware and concentrates on what they're actually really top notch in: Making games.


As hardware makers though, do they really have a place? Wouldn't it be much better for both gamers and the industry if they stopped making hardware and instead provided services such as Steam for PC and mobile platforms? Pretty sure the part of the industry that's currently making money on PS/Xbox systems would make even more money if Sony and MS went down that road.

That's exactly were I see the industry is headed, just services that are available on any device with a screen.



RealGamingExpert on 10 January 2015
freebs2 said:

I don't have any evidecence to suggest the actual handled market won't shrink anymore. I honesly don't know. Still I think the potential market for traditional handled consoles is larger than the actual market, because 3DS and PsVita are simply weak consoles.

I think the next generation should give an answer to that, especially if nintendo is planning a nintendo fusion kind of thing.

The Vita is pretty strong for a handheld though, but it does lack mainstream games.



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Ruler on 10 January 2015

It would be good for nintendo but not good for gamers. Look how sega ended, no games



SanAndreasX on 10 January 2015

Port-begging thread #487163187.



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collint0101 on 10 January 2015

I don't think people understand just how much money Nintendo and the other console makers get from hardware sales and where that money goes to. Has anyone ever noticed that most major 3rd party companies don't have more than 4 or 5 active series at a time. Now think about how many series Nintendo and Sony and Microsoft have going at once. Thats because the majority of their revenue comes from console sales meaning that they can be way more risky with their IPs. Having 1 or 2 big budget series that consistantly sell 1 million copies or less with every release would give EA a heart attack console makers on the other hand could care less. There's a reason Nintendo was willing to fund bayonetta 2 but no 3rd party would



freebs2 on 10 January 2015
RealGamingExpert said:
freebs2 said:
 

I don't have any evidecence to suggest the actual handled market won't shrink anymore. I honesly don't know. Still I think the potential market for traditional handled consoles is larger than the actual market, because 3DS and PsVita are simply weak consoles.

I think the next generation should give an answer to that, especially if nintendo is planning a nintendo fusion kind of thing.

The Vita is pretty strong for a handheld though, but it does lack mainstream games.

I mean weak in terms of market proposition, not in terms of hardware power. PsVita is weak beacuse it was designed to be the console of poor-mans ports of Ps3 games, it's not portable, it was expansive. (now it's not expansive anymore but it doesn't matter since it doesn't have any kind of support).

3DS likewise was designed to render the handled game experience more complex and similar to home console gaming, as opposed to the DS which was designed to be very accesible. It's more expansive and less portable compared to its predecessor (so expansive it needed a huge price cut in its first year). 3DS still manages to sell adeguately becase it's still supported by Nintendo games. The software sold on 3DS is a success but 3DS as a console is a failure.



CosmicSex on 10 January 2015

I disagree. Even if they get out o hardware, they have some of the strongest IPs in all of gaming.



qwertyDANIELqwerty on 10 January 2015

I facepalmed through my head around the entire world and back through my head again.



tak13 on 10 January 2015
Ka-pi96 said:
tak13 said:

So you anwsered me politely then I have to apologize for being a little bit agressive!Did you read the analysis on neogaf?Especially this:just another thing, Nintendo needs to sell 759.319.667 games per year at 5 $ in the App Store to account for the same hardware revenue. And 30 % goes to Apple. (Comparing last fiscal year)
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That's revenue again though...

They wouldn't just lose the hardware revenue they would also lose all the associated costs so wouldn't have to sell anywhere near that much to make up the difference.

Oh...Believe whatever you want,ingore a professional financial analysis that shows that nintendo makes more money on hardware than on software,even Iwata said that this is the main reason why they would never go third party  and the other one reason is that Nintendo software wouldn't work well on non nintendo hardware according to him!

For me the  phrase I wrote before, ends the discussion:just another thing, Nintendo needs to sell 759.319.667 games per year at 5 $ in the App Store to account for the same hardware revenue. And 30 % goes to Apple. (Comparing last fiscal year)