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Do we have the numbers to prove it was a flop? I mean how much did it cost to make the game vs how much money they received from the sales?
Lately I see a big tendencies look at the amount of copies sold instead to look at the raw profit.
It's like for Hollywood now if u don't do a billion people believe it is a flop while a low budget moving that make 300k might do more profits
| uran10 said: .... why is selling less than a mill considered a flop now? |
Because Square Enix was disappointed with the 5 million sales of Tomb Raider reboot.
Really, i don't think Bayonetta 2 was such a big flop... I mean, you can clearly see that the game had lower budget, than most AAA game (most of the cutscenes were still images, there were only a few character to be voiced, most of them are voiced by the same VA, etc). Also, big AAA publishers need 6 million sales because 70% of the games budget is marketing... Bigger marketing cost has to be compensated with higher sales. Bayonetta 2 had pretty weak marketing. A dedicated Nintendo Direct, some ads didn't really cost that much. They knew it was a niché title and won't sell CoD numbers. So I think it was actually profitable. Most AAA publisher has gone bankrupt BECAUSE they wanted to sell CoD numbers with games, which is clearly not meant for the casual market. Also, if you look at the install base... The Wii U and Vita has the highest attach rate for niché games.
dam4rus said:
Really, i don't think Bayonetta 2 was such a big flop... I mean, you can clearly see that the game had lower budget, than most AAA game (most of the cutscenes were still images, there were only a few character to be voiced, most of them are voiced by the same VA, etc). Also, big AAA publishers need 6 million sales because 70% of the games budget is marketing... Bigger marketing cost has to be compensated with higher sales. Bayonetta 2 had pretty weak marketing. A dedicated Nintendo Direct, some ads didn't really cost that much. They knew it was a niché title and won't sell CoD numbers. So I think it was actually profitable. Most AAA publisher has gone bankrupt BECAUSE they wanted to sell CoD numbers with games, which is clearly not meant for the casual market. Also, if you look at the install base... The Wii U and Vita has the highest attach rate for niché games. |
Profitable or not, it just came to Wii U because it was a cheap purchase for Nintendo and helped to expand the Wii U library.
My bet with The_Liquid_Laser: I think the Switch won't surpass the PS2 as the best selling system of all time. If it does, I'll play a game of a list that The_Liquid_Laser will provide, I will have to play it for 50 hours or complete it, whatever comes first.
Its not a flop.
I'm not sure how you can come to that conclusion!
thats like Ubi soft bitching about ZombiU even though its about to hit 800k!
how in the hell is 800k poor sales?!?!
AND
the fact that Bayo2 is going to be close to 600k by the time all 2014 sales are in, is really impressive!
it will sell over 800k before this year is over.
plus!!!
people really like the game.
sales could be in the millions, but if people dont like it (destiny) then its a flop imo.
side note...i fuckin love Destiny. I'm just talking about the general consensus.
Jonathan
Bayonetta 2 is a hack and slash, right? Maybe it's genre is the problem and not that it's mature rated.
Maybe sales would skyrocket if the game is released in other platforms as the people offended by being an exclusive buys it. You know, like the first game.
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Bayo 2. Mature. Woman going around with bolt on boobs and skintight PVC outfit. Yeah, that's not mature. That's what a 14 yr old would call mature...
| ps4tw said: Bayo 2. Mature. Woman going around with bolt on boobs and skintight PVC outfit. Yeah, that's not mature. That's what a 14 yr old would call mature... |
Why does everyone assume any male that likes women being depicted in a sexualized way is immature? I have a penis for a reason. It's to pump scantly clad maidens full of baby banter. It's nature's way of making sure we reproduce. 14 year olds are still watching pokemon and playing card games with their friends.
Metallox said:
But Bayonetta 2 is selling at a similar rate of Tropical Freeze and Pikmin 3. If those 500K are real, the game is doing ok. Niche game on a small installed base. |
For a system that does not have the heavy hitters, IE- Gran Theft Auto, Destiny, Skyrim, Fallout, and most ps4/XB1 multi plats, those numbers are not good at all.
1- The Game is an exclusive for the Wii-U
2 - The Wii-U has sold approx 9 million units
3- The game has no major competition in its genre on the Wii-U
With al that going for it, it should have hit 1mil easily.
Shame on you Wii-u gamer's.
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