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Forums - Nintendo - People need to STOP asking for a Wii U with no Gamepad

PenguinZ said:

If Wii U was $200, then people would want it to be $150... If it was $150, then people would want it to be $100.

If the current price of the Wii U doesn't appeal to these people, especially considering that it's bundled with 2 games typically, then perhaps a Wii U really isn't for that person.

This is what I like to call "MOVING GOAL POSTS"

You are right happens every gen.



 

 

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It's already third party-less and first part dependant, do these people want it to lose one of its only (if not, only) selling points?



Cobretti2 said:
PenguinZ said:

If Wii U was $200, then people would want it to be $150... If it was $150, then people would want it to be $100.

If the current price of the Wii U doesn't appeal to these people, especially considering that it's bundled with 2 games typically, then perhaps a Wii U really isn't for that person.

This is what I like to call "MOVING GOAL POSTS"

You are right happens every gen.

Boom.



DevilRising said:
@OP

True story. The GamePad, for all intents and purposes, is a bad ass controller. It has NO major flaws or drawbacks, unless you want to argue size, which isn't ideal, but even that you get over after awhile, due to how light the damn thing is.

It provided, to ME anyway, the best, most functional and most comfortable combination of d-pad, analogs, and buttons that any modern controller since the SNES has. It throws in the awesome bonus of having a LARGE touch screen, which also allows you to treat the controller both as a second screen for some games, as well as treating the controller itself as a semi-portable TV, so you can play your home console (or eShop) games in comfort in your living room, even while your roommate/family is watching TV or even playing another system. Yeah, the system to controller range COULD be larger, that would certainly be nice, but at the same time, that kind of tech is new/novel enough and convenient enough already, that you really can't complain TOO much.

Plus the touch-screen aspect itself is SUPER useful when it comes to map/item screen/menu navigation, not having to pause the game (for games that are designed to take advantage of that), not to mention the fact that it makes having to input words or browning the internet from your console MUCH more convenient. You can pause effectively pause your game, and go look up GameFaqs or Youtube real quick on the same console, to help you in the game you're currently playing. Not necessary, but super useful.

Outside of all THAT, it also has the extra bells and whistles, such as 9-axis motion sensing, a NFC reader built in, a mic, speakers AND camera in the controller, with nice volume control, I mean it's not all totally necissary stuff, again, and not every developer/game is going to or even HAS to use it all, but it's awesome that it's there. And if that weren't enough, for the super picky out there, Nintendo DOES still provide you with controller options, from the new Pro Controller, to the Wiimote, to the Classic Controller via Wiimote, etc. The kinds of functionality that the GamePad alone offers, plus the additional controller options the Wii U also offers the gamer.....no other system or competition offers that, period.



The camp of folks who have insisted from day one that the Wii U would somehow magically have sold way better if it had a "normal" controller, have always been laughable at best. The GamePad offers FAR more than it could possibly detract, and as I pointed out, it in all blunt honesty has very little about it you can really, fairly criticize. It works great, has tons of built in features and functionality....Nintendo really did good by themselves on the controller end.

Again, the ONLY thing that really hurt Wii U in that first year, a hurt which we are still feeling echoes of today thanks to most major third parties apparently abandoning ship, was misjudging their own development cycles and not having a steady enough flow of games out that first year. Even 2014 had it's burps where it seemed there wasn't a new retail game coming for a bit. 2015 looks as if it just MIGHT manage to have a full, steady game flow, what with: Yoshi, Kirby, Splatoon, Devil's Third, Mario Maker, Mario Party 10, Mario vs. DK, Xenoblade Chronicles X, Star Fox (if it's any good), Zelda, and possibly even STM x FE and (if rumors are to be believed) Animal Crossing.

I think the Wii U will be supported pretty steadily at LEAST through 2017, honestly, and that's good, because as an owner I want my money's worth, and I want at least a good solid 5+ years with my console. Between Nintendo retail titles, and the glut of great eShop content coming out (seriously, Wii U really does have one of the best digital platforms now of anything this side of Steam, with a pretty amazing slate of stuff, that keeps getting larger all the time, coming down the pipeline), I think Wii U owners will be just fine. If major third parties feel like getting back on board, well great. If they don't? Well.....you can either own other systems too, or honestly.....who needs em? Most of those so-called "AAA" blockbuster titles are not always worth their hype anyway.

But regardless of all of that, no, the GamePad isn't nor has it ever been Wii U's problem. If anything, it's one of the best things about the system.

^^ This x1,000,000. Please reword it (lol) and make a new thread out of it to silence all the naysayers. :D



People who argue about that matter would not buy the console anyway. This idea of dropping the gamepad basically is enforced by people who hate anything and everything Nintendo does.

Yeah, this should stop by now. The console is on the market 2 years now and many games make excellent use of it. Nintendo also proved that the use of the touchscreen is not mandatory, it´s just another option to interact with the games.

Dropping the gamepad is tottally nonsense by now. But a bundle with a Pro Controller (like that ZombiU bundle) would be nice



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I agree... The GamePad wasn't, isn't and will never be WiiU's main issue! So, I would be happy if some people would just stop with all nonsense.. :/



                
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Well on my wii u i can use the pro controller to access everything and i have like 15 games that all use pro controller



The main issue with Wii U is just the image, people give Nintendo a kiddy image or a image that its not for adults, this is why when you play playstation or xbox and play online you hear a whole bunch of kids in voice chat because just like the adults they think xbox and playstation are for big people, so they want to feel like a older person too, so they play on a xbox or playstation. Then theres the people who do not want to feel out of place, I remember reading on Miiverse there was someone who posted that he hate how people look at him when he played his 3ds, you see stuff like this would push people away from Nintendo because of Nintendo image, they do not want others to think some type of way about them.

Another problem on here is people think if Nintendo make the same exact system as PS4 and Xbox One they would some how get more 3rd party games.......This is a LIE and Nintendo know it too.......The reason 3rd party do not want to make games on Nintendo products is because they do not sell as well as Nintendo games. Look at VG Chartz sales.......Nintendo 1st party sell more than Microsoft and Sony 1st party, even Sony owner came out and said only 4 out of 10 sony games make money.......its not just that.....only 1 sony game sold over 10 million games and that was gran turismo on the ps2........if you look at the top selling games on any Sony or Microsoft product all of it shows that 3rd party make the most sales........

.so if we use our common sense we can see that 3rd party go where they can make money so they need Sony and Microsoft

Another thing we can realize, there are more 3rd party fans on Sony and Microsoft system instead of 1st party fans, sales prove it, fans can deny it if they want but sales prove it

so regardless if Nintendo made the most powerful system, they still would not get 3rd party games because those 3rd party developers cannot compete with Nintendo, its much easier to sell their games on Playstation and Xbox

I think Nintendo know this too with all the data they have, if they cannot change their image they will have to expect GameCube level of sales, which is not bad at the same time because they never loss money with the GameCube, they made profit every year, more profit then sony made on the ps2, so if they can continue that and stay with a loyal fan base they can always make money and keep it stable fan base



ExplodingBlock said:

Alright, so I am making this thread to address a problem I have been seeing all over the internet

So many people keep asking for a 200$ Wii U that does not include a gamepad, THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN. EVER

If you are one of these people, just stop, you can't even access the system settings without a gamepad, most of the games are not even Pro Controller compatible or require the gamepad to play

I know people say the gamepad is under used, but removing the it would not help this problem at all

Completely agree with you. Gamepad needs to stay. Only thing I do not like about it is that the ABXY buttons are too small like they were made with kids in mind. Also dont like that the trigger buttons are not pressure sensitive they are just pressed or not pressed.



There needs to be an option without one. It's so dumb that they make you pay for something that you barely use and they barely support. Yeah, Amiibo is a different story for now but if Nintendo wanted to appeal to every market, they'd made a gamepadless and gamepad wii U.