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spemanig said:
KLXVER said:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ggn-vhUxrw

 

Go to around the 6:45 mark


I don't want to blow that out of porportion, but WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

"I don't know how much I can say. I can't reveal anything. But let me just say you can definitely look forward to what is coming." - Nintendo Producer Hitoshi Yamagami.

That was in reference to Platinum games, and this guy is in charge of games "Nintendo typically doesn't do." He was a key player in the success of Xenoblade Chronicles.

I'm crossing my fingers for a Platinum made Star Fox that will never happen.


Vanquish 2 and I would cry tears of joy



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mZuzek said:
spemanig said:

I'm crossing my fingers for a Platinum made Star Fox that will never happen.

It will never happen.


Bolded, underlined, and italicized for emphasis.

EDIT: I don't know why the underline isn't showing up. I'd showing up in my editing tool.



KLXVER said:

Vanquish 2 and I would cry tears of joy


I'd rather just Star Fox with Vanquish-like gunplay during on foot missions.

...And DMC-like combat with Beam Swords...

*SLAP!!*

Wake up, Spemanig!



mZuzek said:
Someone please lock this thread. It's getting very aggravating.


Why? which side of the debate are you on? I own a WiiU the gamepad doesn't add anything, the battery is a joke and the WiiU's controller pro is far supperior. 

None of the games so far have even come close to making good use of the gamepad. A game like Rayman Legends design entirely around the gamepad got redesign to work without game pad. Using the gamepad and looking at the TV at the same time doesn't work. It's gimmicky. My WiiU is in my living room like almost every one else. It's connected to my 60" inch TV with a Vizio 52" inch soundbar system, to give a console experience .... why the hell would it add value to play on the gamepad. Turns out parent and kids don't think so either only 8 million sold worldwide in two years.

Nintendo WiiU's is a failure even in Nintendo books not just looking from the outside. Nintendo needs to please investors and investors are not happy. WiiU is not making them any money. I paid $350 for my WiiU and got it at launch, I was there when WiiU had full 3rd party support and played Call of duty on the WiiU, Activision made a amazing launch game in ZombiU (ZombiU 2 was apparently in the works and would of been even better) and I was eagerly waiting for RAyman legends to release on Feb 24, 2013 .... I pre-ordered this game and the this game was the main reason I was sold on the WiiU. Fast forward two years, WiiU is a failure and I want nothing else then for Nintendo to do something about it. Dropping the gamepad would solve all of the problem. I own over 30 WiiU games and the gamepad is a useless piece of plastic. Sure I enjoyed it in NintendoLand and Game and Wario but I stop playing these game years ago. The only gamepad intergration on MArio KArt 8 was a horn. A HORN.

You know what happen when something doesn't make money and investors are not happy??? We're looking either option #1 change or option #2 move on to the next thing and cut your lose.  



mZuzek said:

Yeah, formatting isn't working too well.

I read your post. I just felt the need to reinforce that it wouldn't ever happen because you really shouldn't be crossing your fingers for something like that.


There's nothing to reinforce, and why shouldn't I? It would have a lot of awe, but it would have even more some.

...It would be awesome.



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mZuzek said:

It would.

But it's not happening, so the best you can do is stop dreaming about it and just trust Miyamoto. Which I know you don't.


But... Project Giant Robot....

Please don't make me wake up.

...Maybe Miyamoto is working with Platinum? I can see it now. Online multiplayer. Customize your own animal. TPS mechanics like in Vanquish combined with a more polished all range mode! Full online dogfights! Hack n Slash sword combat with Beam Swords! Full HD on rails missions with that Platinum touch! The epitome of gameplay variety! Fully orchestrated score like in Assault! Amazing prequel story starring James McCloud, father of Fox! It- *SLAP!!* "WAKE UP!"

FUCK.



@OP

True story. The GamePad, for all intents and purposes, is a bad ass controller. It has NO major flaws or drawbacks, unless you want to argue size, which isn't ideal, but even that you get over after awhile, due to how light the damn thing is.

It provided, to ME anyway, the best, most functional and most comfortable combination of d-pad, analogs, and buttons that any modern controller since the SNES has. It throws in the awesome bonus of having a LARGE touch screen, which also allows you to treat the controller both as a second screen for some games, as well as treating the controller itself as a semi-portable TV, so you can play your home console (or eShop) games in comfort in your living room, even while your roommate/family is watching TV or even playing another system. Yeah, the system to controller range COULD be larger, that would certainly be nice, but at the same time, that kind of tech is new/novel enough and convenient enough already, that you really can't complain TOO much.

Plus the touch-screen aspect itself is SUPER useful when it comes to map/item screen/menu navigation, not having to pause the game (for games that are designed to take advantage of that), not to mention the fact that it makes having to input words or browning the internet from your console MUCH more convenient. You can pause effectively pause your game, and go look up GameFaqs or Youtube real quick on the same console, to help you in the game you're currently playing. Not necessary, but super useful.

Outside of all THAT, it also has the extra bells and whistles, such as 9-axis motion sensing, a NFC reader built in, a mic, speakers AND camera in the controller, with nice volume control, I mean it's not all totally necissary stuff, again, and not every developer/game is going to or even HAS to use it all, but it's awesome that it's there. And if that weren't enough, for the super picky out there, Nintendo DOES still provide you with controller options, from the new Pro Controller, to the Wiimote, to the Classic Controller via Wiimote, etc. The kinds of functionality that the GamePad alone offers, plus the additional controller options the Wii U also offers the gamer.....no other system or competition offers that, period.



The camp of folks who have insisted from day one that the Wii U would somehow magically have sold way better if it had a "normal" controller, have always been laughable at best. The GamePad offers FAR more than it could possibly detract, and as I pointed out, it in all blunt honesty has very little about it you can really, fairly criticize. It works great, has tons of built in features and functionality....Nintendo really did good by themselves on the controller end.

Again, the ONLY thing that really hurt Wii U in that first year, a hurt which we are still feeling echoes of today thanks to most major third parties apparently abandoning ship, was misjudging their own development cycles and not having a steady enough flow of games out that first year. Even 2014 had it's burps where it seemed there wasn't a new retail game coming for a bit. 2015 looks as if it just MIGHT manage to have a full, steady game flow, what with: Yoshi, Kirby, Splatoon, Devil's Third, Mario Maker, Mario Party 10, Mario vs. DK, Xenoblade Chronicles X, Star Fox (if it's any good), Zelda, and possibly even STM x FE and (if rumors are to be believed) Animal Crossing.

I think the Wii U will be supported pretty steadily at LEAST through 2017, honestly, and that's good, because as an owner I want my money's worth, and I want at least a good solid 5+ years with my console. Between Nintendo retail titles, and the glut of great eShop content coming out (seriously, Wii U really does have one of the best digital platforms now of anything this side of Steam, with a pretty amazing slate of stuff, that keeps getting larger all the time, coming down the pipeline), I think Wii U owners will be just fine. If major third parties feel like getting back on board, well great. If they don't? Well.....you can either own other systems too, or honestly.....who needs em? Most of those so-called "AAA" blockbuster titles are not always worth their hype anyway.

But regardless of all of that, no, the GamePad isn't nor has it ever been Wii U's problem. If anything, it's one of the best things about the system.



I will not buy the console unless the gamepad gets removed or redesigned (smaller and less heavy).



Thats not the same, bad example, its more like a BMW without a Idrive, no reverse camera, no screen to show you where the beeping coming from and etc.



Price is not the issue, the image is the issue, all those sales for Xbox in November show money is not an issue for any customer. so it goes back to the image people have for Nintendo, which is the system is for kids, if not that, its a weak system, and how did this image came about, its from gamers, same way generalization come about, if people keep saying something about something eventually that thing will be seen as it from everyone, its like I told people yesterday if you ask someone whats the best systems for adults to play games, they would assume xbox or playstation