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bouzane said:
Samus Aran said:
burninmylight said:
Samus Aran said:
mZuzek said:
Samus Aran said:

The last 3 Star Fox titles sold less than any Metroid game has sold. Star Fox: Adventures, that released in the same year as Metroid Prime, also sold far less than Metroid Prime. 

Star fox is on on rails shooter. So yeah, that franchise can fuck off for all I care. I hope a third party studio is making it. 

Star Fox SNES sold more than the best selling Metroid game and Star Fox 64 sold over a million more than that. Adventures was poorly received by the fans for being a huge departure from the series and a big disappointment overall, and it still sold better than every Metroid game apart from the first one and Prime. It's no big surprise that sales would have declined after disappointing entries, and Assault being another weak game it's no wonder it sold even less, but it still sold better than a few Metroid games at that, and the only Star Fox remake is about to outsell the both Metroid remakes in a console with a far smaller userbase than either the GBA or Wii had. The only Star Fox game to not outsell a Metroid one is Command, which was the third disappointment in a row, had a terrible artstyle, no voice acting, touch controls and an atrocious story.

So please don't say Metroid sells more. Star Fox has more wide recognition and appeal and it's games tend to sell more than Metroid when they're good, and even when they're bad they can sometimes outsell stellar Metroid entries, which also obviously cost way more to develop because of them usually being more ambitious titles.

Star Fox is an on-rails shooter. So yeah, it's fucking awesosome

SNES and N64 games aren't relevant examples anymore. And there has never been a good Star Fox game, so what you're saying confuses me. You said it yourself, you can finish Star Fox 64 in an hour. 

And with that line, you lost any remaining credibility you had and proved your whole argument is based purely on baseless fanboyism. Just stop now and come clean. mZuzek took the high road and extended the olive branch, so you might as well take the offer.

Nope, I truly think the whole Star Fox franchise is mediocre at best. A game you can finish in one hour is not worth my money. I recently bought Super Mario Land 3: Wario Land, a gameboy game, and it took me around 4-5 hours to complete it. And I replayed it as well. That's €4 well spent. What's Star Fox's excuse of being only one hour long? 


Sorry but dismissing Star Fox based upon it's length is assinine, especially considering that it takes multiple playthroughs to experience all of the content available. Additionally, I find it baffling to see a Metroid fan criticizing anything based upon length when several Metroid games can be finished in under an hour including Super Metroid.

@OP

As a huge Metroid fan I find this news disheartening to say the least. I do not currently own a WiiU or a 3DS but a new Metroid would certinly change that.

Not a 2D Metroid fan, I'm in love with the Metroid Prime trilogy. Those took me forever to complete, especially Prime 2. You're all defending the short length now, but if Star Fox Wii U has a campaign of only an hour you will all hate it. Well, most of you guys anyway. 8-10 hours for a first playthrough is a must imo. 



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I'd like a Metroid game to be made for the 3DS just as much as I want a Metroid game to be made for the Wii U.



Samus Aran said:
EricFabian said:
Samus Aran said:

Nope, I truly think the whole Star Fox franchise is mediocre at best. A game you can finish in one hour is not worth my money. I recently bought Super Mario Land 3: Wario Land, a gameboy game, and it took me around 4-5 hours to complete it. And I replayed it as well. That's €4 well spent. What's Star Fox's excuse of being only one hour long? 


http://www.kotaku.com.au/2012/03/super-metroid-speed-run-record-broken/

I don't like Super Metroid!

Shocking, isn't it? :p 

I'm more of a Retro Studios fan than a Metroid fan really. 

Ps: I actually like the last game Rare made for NIntendo more than the N64 Star Fox. 


So much sadness in this post.  I'm really not sure you've given Super Metroid enough of a chance.  Or perhaps you have a hard time with a majority of old school platform/side scrollers.  Not sure.  But Super does so many things right.  There are also people who hate on something because everyone else loves it.  Not saying you're one of those people, but it's often wise to consider that when judging a game.

@ MZuzek...sorry for the lack of Star Fox.  Hopefully Nintendo will deliver what you've been waiting for.  With really nothing shown yet, you must feel very apprehensive about the results.



@Samus Aran

I guess we've got something in common. While I did enjoy Metroid II, III and Fusion I greatly prefer Prime. I stand by my point that dismissing a game based upon length is foolish though, especially considering the fact that many of the greatest games from the third and fourth console generations only offered an hour of content of less.



super_etecoon said:
Samus Aran said:
EricFabian said:
Samus Aran said:

Nope, I truly think the whole Star Fox franchise is mediocre at best. A game you can finish in one hour is not worth my money. I recently bought Super Mario Land 3: Wario Land, a gameboy game, and it took me around 4-5 hours to complete it. And I replayed it as well. That's €4 well spent. What's Star Fox's excuse of being only one hour long? 


http://www.kotaku.com.au/2012/03/super-metroid-speed-run-record-broken/

I don't like Super Metroid!

Shocking, isn't it? :p 

I'm more of a Retro Studios fan than a Metroid fan really. 

Ps: I actually like the last game Rare made for NIntendo more than the N64 Star Fox. 


So much sadness in this post.  I'm really not sure you've given Super Metroid enough of a chance.  Or perhaps you have a hard time with a majority of old school platform/side scrollers.  Not sure.  But Super does so many things right.  There are also people who hate on something because everyone else loves it.  Not saying you're one of those people, but it's often wise to consider that when judging a game.

@ MZuzek...sorry for the lack of Star Fox.  Hopefully Nintendo will deliver what you've been waiting for.  With really nothing shown yet, you must feel very apprehensive about the results.

Just don't think it aged all that well. I never grew up with these games. The original Metroid is even worse, that game is barely playable to me. Just like the first two Zelda games. They aged so poorly (the Zelda games that is). 

I should probably give Metroid: Zero Mission a chance though, I heard it improves a lot on the first Metroid game. And for only €4 I don't mind if it's a short game. 



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mZuzek said:
artur-fernand said:
...we're never gonna get Metroid 5? Jesus, even Star Fox is getting a new game next year, and all Metroid has are more and more cancelled games.
And when they do release it, it's outsourced. Fantastic.

"EVEN" Star Fox?

Oh god. Metroid fans can be so spoiled sometimes. They get a series with countless stellar games and entries every so often, and as soon as they don't hear about it for 5 years after one poor title they're already off complaining. Please. Star Fox hasn't had a single good game in over 17 years and it's been 8 years since the latest installment, and that's for a franchise that typically sells more units than Metroid.

You want to play a good Metroid game? You got Metroid, Metroid 2, Metroid 3, Metroid 4, Metroid Prime, Metroid Prime 2, Metroid Prime 3, Metroid Zero Mission, Metroid Prime Hunters... a Star Fox fan has to keep replaying the 1-hour long Star Fox 64 over and over and over. So stop your moaning, please.

(damn, I had no idea I was so touchy about that)
Anyways, I'm still sure we're getting some Metroid games in a couple of years.


From what I read, you seem to be touchy about a lot of things.

WIth all due respect, chill out. I'm not "moaning". I can't believe you got so defensive just because I said "even" (as in "even a series that, like you said, never gets games has news, and Metroid doesn't").

Actually, you get defensive about a lot of stuff.



bouzane said:
@Samus Aran

I guess we've got something in common. While I did enjoy Metroid II, III and Fusion I greatly prefer Prime. I stand by my point that dismissing a game based upon length is foolish though, especially considering the fact that many of the greatest games from the third and fourth console generations only offered an hour of content of less.

Maybe, I didn't own any of those consoles. But I did play the OoT remake and I have over 20 hours of gameplay on it. That's also an N64 game, so again, what's the excuse of Star Fox? Isn't an on rails shooter far more easier to develop than an open world game (with dynamic time no less)?



bouzane said:
@Samus Aran

I guess we've got something in common. While I did enjoy Metroid II, III and Fusion I greatly prefer Prime. I stand by my point that dismissing a game based upon length is foolish though, especially considering the fact that many of the greatest games from the third and fourth console generations only offered an hour of content of less.

Thanks, I'm going to buy Fusion next year and give it a new shot. I heard it's more linear than Super Metroid. I like non-linearity in a 3D game, but in a 2D game it greatly confuses me for some reason. 



I hope they have another 3DS Metroid lined up



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Do I look like I want to hear about a game being cancelled that I hadn't heard about... and then the confirmation that this cancelled game once existed.
That's just mean. I would have rather not known.
It's like "oh hey there's this new game... but not actually because we cancelled it.



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