Well then it's a good thing you're getting GoW 4 and Uncharted 4 PLUS these indies! Look at that, how nice Sony is to you. Thank you Sony we are forever humbled.

Yeah posted it in the xbox empire (yesterday?)... You will find more people who said that they not care about indies than they will complain about it and that MS should do something about it..

Then again Microsft has Minecraft and that game sold more than probably all PS4 indies/Xbo indies mentioned in those lists together will....

Well I play the ocassional indie game I get for "free" with PSN

But yeah, get going with God of War! (and Sony Bend and Guerilla...)

dude, games are like clothes.  the label matters more than the item itself.   if the game isn't a full retail console exclusive then playing it just makes me look like i'm too poor to afford the good stuff.  i'd rather pay $600 for a shirt from burberry than get walmart's entire shirt collection for free.  fuck that,. i have and image to protect.

Lol, summed it up perfectly.

Indie games have become the middleware of this generation~

Shovel Knight is cool. Nice Playstation owner now finally can also play this.

I think this tidbit is a lot more interesting

Why not develop for XB1 first?

This is inherently why the parity program exists: to give XB1 exclusive games without the need for exclusive marketing or financial deals. But yes, that's a question that cannot be universally answered. Many devs have their own personal reasons. I can only share my own.

I applied to both the ID@Xbox program and the Sony developer program back in Feb. While both programs are fantastic and have great people behind them, I was able to get my Xbox One dev kit first by a few months. Theoretically this should have allowed me to get started on an XB1 port of my game except for one issue: the engine I use, GM Studio, would not be supporting XB1 until later this year. PS4/Vita support was already built into the engine. So, I started studying PS platform requirements, APIs, and GM Studio integration in preparation for my dev kits which I received last month. Through no fault of my own, I was developing first for Playstation because that's the engine that was available to me via GM Studio. My PS4 game will be ready much earlier than my XB1 version. And despite having an XB1 dev kit, MS doesn't want my game at a later date. They want me to delay my PS4 version until I can get the XB1 version out the door. And that's impossible for me to do from a scheduling and financial standpoint. And so, just like that, I'm unable to make XB1 games, even though I very much want to. Even though I'm an ID@Xbox dev. Even though I have a dev kit right here next to me.

I could talk to Phil and tell him my situation, and maybe, just maybe he'll grant me a pass. It is ludicrous that I have to plea with MS to slip me through the door. Hence why I'm creating this topic, so that MS will maybe revise the parity clause not just for me but for everyone wanting to make XB1 games.

I don't care too much for most of those indie games myself, but it's at least nice to know that PS4 owners will get the chance to play them!

And none make me want to go out a buy a ps4