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OttoniBastos said:
Materia-Blade said:
OttoniBastos said:
Materia-Blade said:
riderz13371 said:

Lol I know see your one and only motivation. You claim the game has a downgrade but it has yet to be released...Not only that but you've seen a compressed video of the game. But whatever, if bashing the game makes you feel better then go right ahead.

there's already a downgrade from since the teaser:

And the image on the right isn't even in game. more downgrades can happen.


What downgrade? The model seems to be the same! The difference is that in the first pic Nathan is wet and in the second it's not.Plus there is a moonlight on the first pic and ambient light on the second.

 

are people really that much desperate trying to bash this game?

the difference is that the teaser was more detailed. The hair is particularly noticeable.

and as I said, neither is in game. the actual in game graphics are less detailed than either image.


The hair was hide in the shadows in the first pic.It's probably the same hair but the night shadows + moonlight was giving a better look.Different lightning can cause better or worse IQ,that is my point. look at watch dogs at night rainning and compare with daylight no rain.It's a totally different IQ.

What I see is that on the left hairs is near perfection, that's a level of realisme I've never seen before. And on the right, you can see approximations (I suppose it come from the different layers of transparency), triangles and aliasing, and that's not bad, but that's not really impressive.

Anyway, more than the hair difference that I don't really care about, the 15 minutes footage is a jungle again, and I've already seen pretty great jungle years before. What was very impressive in the trailer was exactly that, rain, moonlight and shadows, and what the gameplay video shows is a plain jungle we are already used to. I don't think anyone can impress me with an uncharted's style jungle I've already seen 3 times.



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I disagree, just because UC4's visuals disappointed many people doesn't mean nothing on console will ever impress.

The Order: 1886 already impresses and it's still early days, God of War IV will look unbelievably good as no other console developer is on the level of their technical prowess.



Generation is far from over. Games starting development now that in 2018 might wow us.

I am still impressed how far they pushed the 360 and PS3 with such limited tech. If similar things are achieved on X1 and PS4 then the big wow games will arrive in 2017/2018.



There is a graphical lead between gens, but it is no doubt smallers than previous gens. This is to be expected though. As games get closer and closer to photo realizm, potential gaps will close. Furthermore technology has advanced to the point where development costs play a huge role to a new consoles power. I mean what would be the point to making games if they cost so much to develope that profit becomes void?

What suprises me is that everyone knew this was gonna happen, but wanna act suprised when it does. From the very start everyone was expecting a decent (not huge) boost in visuals and more flexibility for development. Also improved AI will also be a factor when console optimization comes into play.  In fact the footage of Uncharted gameplay is showing just that and is actually quite impressive for such an early stage of development.

It is human nature to always want more, but people really need to learn to just chill and enjoy the experiences these devs are working to give us, unless of course the game is released broken. In that case rage on lol.



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People are just not putting things in perspective, sure, if you made the environment small enough you could have something that looked like God of War 3 on the PS3... or even Uncharted 2/3 and The Last of Us...with clean yet simple enough graphics ytou could have good looking almost 1080p games like Wipeout HD...

But look at Uncharted 4, it's 1 year from release, you have what appears to be pretty big open environments where you have choices on how to approach each battle (or avoid them) it moves pretty fast, enemies wok together to get you, etc. the cut scenes happen in real time and the characters look amazing, the resolution is over twice what it was before (720p vs 1080p) everything is more detailed and interactive... and the frame rate will be better (they said they targetted 60... now this ran at a stable 30... so we will see how this turns out).

and if you want to see what's possible at 30fps, look at the Order 1886, it ships in about 3 months and it looks so much better than any game on anything ever this is not even funny anymore...

I have yet to see one person who I showed the PS4 to say, hey it looks 'the same' or similar to what they had on the PS360, even when showing Thomb Raider:DE or The Last of Us:RE... now when you put in Infamous:SS, Killzone:SF or more recently Driveclub, Far Cry 4 people start loosing their mind... even casual observers are impressed by Driveclub.. and I can't wait to see the reactions to the game now that the weather update was released.

We see people who are unimpressed only on the forums, I have not met a single of those in real life.



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Norris2k said:
OttoniBastos said:
Materia-Blade said:
OttoniBastos said:
Materia-Blade said:
riderz13371 said:



there's already a downgrade from since the teaser:

And the image on the right isn't even in game. more downgrades can happen.

 

 


I think it's pretty clear that the hair on the left side is hidden in the shadows, this is why you don't see any of the problems it has...

The rest is lighting, there are certainly not less "details" (unless you talk about different scratches on Drake's face... which would be strange because you are showing two different sides to his face, and well in the teaser he just got out of the mud and probably some big ambush, so he has to have more "details" in the form of dirt and scratches, my guess is this is later in the game).

Anyway, look at the full teaser (high wuality on gamersyde) at the end he has an exchange with his brother, if these are not the best models we have seen so far, I don't know what will impress you...



Diminishing returns+the weak consoles of today= where we are in console gaming.

I always said going into this gen that I was more happy to have more games running at solid framerates and to have things like better AI. Sadly enough, devs are so busy trying to push graphics that we are getting neither.



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In my opinion, last gen consoles at the time of release had more cutting edge technology for its time than the new consoles. So this might be the reason why it feels like its not as big a leap.



alabtrosMyster said:
Norris2k said:
OttoniBastos said:
Materia-Blade said:
OttoniBastos said:
Materia-Blade said:
riderz13371 said:



there's already a downgrade from since the teaser:

And the image on the right isn't even in game. more downgrades can happen.

 

 


I think it's pretty clear that the hair on the left side is hidden in the shadows, this is why you don't see any of the problems it has...

The rest is lighting, there are certainly not less "details" (unless you talk about different scratches on Drake's face... which would be strange because you are showing two different sides to his face, and well in the teaser he just got out of the mud and probably some big ambush, so he has to have more "details" in the form of dirt and scratches, my guess is this is later in the game).

Anyway, look at the full teaser (high wuality on gamersyde) at the end he has an exchange with his brother, if these are not the best models we have seen so far, I don't know what will impress you...


http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-is-uncharted-4-the-generational-leap-we-were-hoping-for

 

from digital foundry and they too mention it has been downgraded since the initial reveal