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OttoniBastos on 06 December 2014
Materia-Blade said:
OttoniBastos said:
Materia-Blade said:
riderz13371 said:

Lol I know see your one and only motivation. You claim the game has a downgrade but it has yet to be released...Not only that but you've seen a compressed video of the game. But whatever, if bashing the game makes you feel better then go right ahead.

there's already a downgrade from since the teaser:

And the image on the right isn't even in game. more downgrades can happen.


What downgrade? The model seems to be the same! The difference is that in the first pic Nathan is wet and in the second it's not.Plus there is a moonlight on the first pic and ambient light on the second.

 

are people really that much desperate trying to bash this game?

the difference is that the teaser was more detailed. The hair is particularly noticeable.

and as I said, neither is in game. the actual in game graphics are less detailed than either image.


The hair was hide in the shadows in the first pic.It's probably the same hair but the night shadows + moonlight was giving a better look.Different lightning can cause better or worse IQ,that is my point. look at watch dogs at night rainning and compare with daylight no rain.It's a totally different IQ.



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Locknuts on 06 December 2014

Of course it doesn't look like that E3 trailer (especially his hair) but I'm suitably impressed. Especially considering that it's pre alpha and they're still targeting 60fps afaik.



Soundwave on 06 December 2014

Should we really be surprised though?

The PS4 and X1 are basically just PC components in a box with a fairly weak CPU.

There's nothing really that tech wise they should be able to do that would be light years past what a good PC rig can pull off.

Hence I think it's harder to impress people.

I think too the last gen was like a "leap generation" in terms of graphics, the combination of the addition of high end shading/lighting effects + polygon counts reaching a certain high level meant that it was a monstrous leap over the previous gen. You could create character models that looked seamless and fairly smooth, now you can add 10x the polys to that if you want but it'll be more of a refinement that a huge jump. 



Troll_Whisperer on 06 December 2014

They probably forgot how Uncharted 1 looked.

 



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ironmanDX on 06 December 2014

Looked pretty good to me.

It's gaf. What do you guys expect?



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Soundwave on 06 December 2014

Uncharted 1-2 had a bigger leap though because the PS3 was a more exotic architecture that took a big toll on devs to properly utilize the CELL processor and those were the days of developers first getting the hang of HD graphics/shaders. So as expected there was a larger learning curve last gen. 

I don't think you'll see that same kind of jump from Uncharted 4 to 5 (say) as the PS4 is a much more straight forward chipset.



Aerys on 06 December 2014

Well, it's like Zelda (in less unpolished) , it's an alpha version so it would be stupid to judge the visuals as the definitive ones, still, the visuals are already very impressive.

And gameplay wise, it's so damn good.



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

Eddie_Raja on 06 December 2014
zero129 said:
Eddie_Raja said:
zero129 said:
Captain_Tom said:
Download the full uncompressed video if you want to revel in the graphics (A 1.6GB file). I can honestly say that this looks better than anything I have played on PC. Yes BF4 and Metro: LL come a little close, but UC4 is king (1080p of course).

Have you played Ryse Son of rome maxed out on PC?, It might not be as open as UC4 but it sure does top it when it comes to graphics..


I have, and it doens't.  Download the full uncompressed video of the gameplay if you want to comment.

On Ryse PC version we have better Tesselation effects, better higher res textures, better lighting, higher res shadows, Super sampling (Maxed out you would have it on) Makes the game look so clear sometimes you would think you was watching a film.

I have downloaded the full un compressed video and this is coming from a huge uncharted fan (Mean reason for owning my PS4) but Ryse PC maxed out does look better visually, But then like i said saying that Uncharted has more open ended levels then Ryse and it is the best looking game on Consoles already and still has almost a year left to go!.


I am well aware of what Ryse on PC has.  After all I just said I played it.  The fact is that I find Uncharted 4 to look better and be FAR more impressive.  A QTE fest does nothing to impress me with a couple of enemies on screen at a time and static areas.



Prediction for console Lifetime sales:

Wii:100-120 million, PS3:80-110 million, 360:70-100 million

[Prediction Made 11/5/2009]

3DS: 65m, PSV: 22m, Wii U: 18-22m, PS4: 80-120m, X1: 35-55m

I gauruntee the PS5 comes out after only 5-6 years after the launch of the PS4.

[Prediction Made 6/18/2014]

Aerys on 06 December 2014
Soundwave said:

Uncharted 1-2 had a bigger leap though because the PS3 was a more exotic architecture that took a big toll on devs to properly utilize the CELL processor and those were the days of developers first getting the hang of HD graphics/shaders. So as expected there was a larger learning curve last gen. 

I don't think you'll see that same kind of jump from Uncharted 4 to 5 (say) as the PS4 is a much more straight forward chipset.


It's not the real reason, the leap will always exist, it existed as much for 360 whereas it hadnt a complex architecture.

Games we will get in 2-3 years will be Uncharted 4 levels for a lot , and the next ND game will show a good jump too, they are only training on PS4 with this last Uncharted



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

Eddie_Raja on 06 December 2014
RavenXtra said:
WolfpackN64 said:
hinch said:
WolfpackN64 said:

There is no 'maxed out Uncharted' as the PS4 version is the only version. And the frame rate did dip a few times.

It doesn't. Watch the uncompressed video from Gamersyde. No stutter or frame drops like on the stream. And it looks MUCH better on there too. I'll post some screenshots of it when I can.

I watched the Playstation vid on youtube. While that compresses the vid, it doesn't explain why I did see some small instances of framedrop.




It's in Alpha?  lol



Prediction for console Lifetime sales:

Wii:100-120 million, PS3:80-110 million, 360:70-100 million

[Prediction Made 11/5/2009]

3DS: 65m, PSV: 22m, Wii U: 18-22m, PS4: 80-120m, X1: 35-55m

I gauruntee the PS5 comes out after only 5-6 years after the launch of the PS4.

[Prediction Made 6/18/2014]