the_dengle said:
Because comparing anything to the international phenomenon that was the DS is just looking for something to be disappointed in. And it's obvious that the "problem handheld" in Japan is not the one on its way to at least 20 million LT sales.
But reiterating weekly that the Vita isn't putting up numbers anywhere near the PSP is boring, no one does it anymore because it's just stating the obvious. Comparing the 3DS to the DS is equally boring and obvious -- and even then, what I'm seeing are people comparing the 3DS YOY sales more than that, which is nonsensical because of course the 3DS is down YOY. I was just illustrating that typically consoles peak in their third year and then decline steadily from there, and that even the mighty DS was not an exception to this trend.
Japanese sales threads are also appropriate places for discussing the massive decline of home consoles sales since last gen, but there's more optimism in this thread for the PS4 and Wii U than either of those consoles deserve.
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Bolded; are you sure about that? That's not what the data shows.
DS peaked in its fourth full calendar year, PSP peaked in its fourth full calendar year, Xbox 360 peaked in its sixth full calendar year and the PS3 peaked in its fifth full calendar year. The 3DS also had a price cut that amounted to a whooping and record breaking ~30%+ of the retail launch price only months after release and has already had 3 hardware revisions in the same time the PS3 had one and Xbox 360 none, DS had one revision and the PSP also had one (counting the same space of time the 3DS has been out thus far, of course).
From where I'm sitting, the 3DS is starting to look more and more like an anomaly that goes against sales and market trends and history and the fact that it has the market almost entirely to itself and the massive amounts of behemoth, system selling software it has received just makes everything worse and shows us how dire the situation is for the dedicated handheld, despite your insistence that everything is okay and that it is silly to compare to the DS. Is it silly to compare the PS4 to the Wii, or the PS2? Plenty of people doing that, was it silly to compare the Wii to the PS2? PS3 to PS2? PS4 to PS3? The list goes on, I don't understand how you're thinking, this whole "it is unfair to compare the Wii U and 3DS to the Wii and DS because they were phenomenons" is strange and lacks any kind of logic and the fact that the changes are as massive as they are is a testament to the point I'm making here.
Also; speaking of trends, wanna see approximations of yoy growth of the bunch? Okay, since you asked so nicely (yes, some had a staggered launch but the 3DS launched in March and had a ridiculous price drop after only a few monhts).
3DS:
First full CY (March launch but crazy price cut of around ~30%+ should easily offset 2/3 months of no sales) saw about 12.5 million sales.
First full CY showed 8% growth yoy
Second full CY showed 7% growth yoy and was the peak year
DS:
Second full CY (launch comparison is useless since it was available only in Japan and NA and launched during the holidays) showed ~88% growth yoy.
Third full CY showed 41% growth yoy (unfair comparison to 3DS? It was launched in Europe and Aus at the same time of the year as the 3DS debuted).
Fourth full CY showed about 0.5% growth yoy and was the peak year.
PSP:
First full CY saw March NA launch and Sept Europe launch, sold about 9.6 million that year.
Second full CY saw practically flat yoy curve despite the staggered launch, appears that consoles had more kick down the line than the 3DS, no?
Third full CY saw yoy growth in the 35% region.
Fourth full CY saw about 10% growth yoy and was the peak year.
Xbox 360:
First full CY saw about 6.8 million sales with no competition from peer consoles until the holidays.
Second full CY saw yoy growth around 16% in the face of fierce competition.
Third full CY showed yoy growth of around 38%.
Fourth full CY showed yoy decline of about 6%.
Fifth full CY showed yoy growth in the ~31% region and way above third CY.
Sixth year saw a small increase of around 2% yoy and was the peak year.
PS3:
First full CY saw about 7.95 million sales, staggered launch with Europe and Aus getting it in March.
Second full CY showed yoy growth around 30%.
Third full CY showed yoy growth of about 27%.
Fourth fyll CY showed yoy growth of around 4%.
Fifth full Cy showed yoy growth around 4.5% and was the peak year.
What does any of this have to do with Japan sales? Not much, but if you want to tell others to stop saying or doing certain things, I would like you to stop saying and doing certain things; stop pretending that there is anything normal with the 3DS' sales situation, there really isn't and don't go around claiming that comparisons are meaningless unless you have a better metric to use to this end.