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Mummelmann on 12 November 2014
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RolStoppable said:
Mummelmann said:
 

Bolded; are you sure about that? That's not what the data shows.

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What does any of this have to do with Japan sales? Not much, but if you want to tell others to stop saying or doing certain things, I would like you to stop saying and doing certain things; stop pretending that there is anything normal with the 3DS' sales situation, there really isn't and don't go around claiming that comparisons are meaningless unless you have a better metric to use to this end.

Hint: If you want to disprove somebody's claim, you have to use numbers that are relevant to the discussion at hand. Why did you even post all those worldwide numbers when your closing paragraph concedes that they are basically meaningless?

Take a step back and look at this thread again. Somehow this has turned into a "3DS is doing the worst out of the bunch" thing while concerns should be really directed at every system but the 3DS.


I believe that I have referred to Japan as a "wasteland for home consoles" for the 8th gen is some form or other in almost every Media Create thread this fall, the point of posting global numbers is that some are seeing the 3DS as a console that has a shot at having a long and healthy life because it has shown some decent sales in one region, and this is clearly not the case.

It was also to point out that he was wrong in stating that the 3DS is just following normal market movements and sales patterns. Yes; the main discussion should revolve around the marshes that home consoles are stuck in but touting the 3DS as the excpetion to the rule is just silly, all things considered. Does anyone think the PS4 couldn't get a large but short spike with tremendous software and hardware revisions? Short term boosts show us nothing about longevity and using holiday figures in the best region after a hardware revision and several pieces of massively popular software for said region in the fresh channel is an incredibly short-sighted and illogical metric for the future of a console.
This is also partly due to the massive opposition I faced when I suggested this decline in handheld consoles a couple of years ago; the consensus seemed to be that I was full of it.

I have never suggested that the "3DS is doing the worst of the bunch", it is rather a case of; "the 3DS gets a spike in sales and people use it to prove that everything is a-okay". Of course the others are doing worse; I've even written in this very thread that it is a sad state of affairs when the PS4 is doubling the Wii U and still doing really poorly and way below PS3 level sales.

PS: As a post to show that the 3DS does not follow sales norms of the past decade; using global numbers is perfectly fine, using Japan only tells only part of the story, especially during a temporary boost like we're seeing now. Or do you also think that the best measure for the Wii U's global future was how it did in Japan without competition, for instance?

Edit;

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6789488 Here I'm even saying that the 3DS is holding very well, which is true, all things considered.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6769207 Clearly just beating up the 3DS over the home consoles.