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It feels as though those opposed to grouping the two together are being intentionally obtuse.

loool no.... We can't call them exclusive because it is not a matter of weak console but simply sony who hasn't or doesn't want to reprogramm these games for a 1080i format.

So what is wrong with having the two grouped together?

Explain the rear pad then... Also how come vita tv cant play all vita games? Same situation :p

Market analysis. The N3DS launch will make things look like 3DS is doing extremely well and it is not the case because poeple are ditchind their old console to get the new one just like PS4 and PS3 or XBOX one and 360 recently. I think I will put this on the front page

Well... There are many games that are exclusive to the Vita cause the Vita has a touchscreen and not cause of the resolution so it = hardware limitation of the Vita TV (cause there is no touch screen)

Whenever any new model of something releases, whether it be the PS3 Slim or an LE, you get people who are rebuying. There is no way to eliminate that factor from market analysis and there really isn't any reason to.

N3DS is just as much a 3DS as the DSi was a DS...separating them gives you more data, and I would like to see a breakdown of sales (if VGC is even capable of that), but on the front page, they should be in one column

Yeah I forgot about the the reprogramming of games without touchscreen command and vita moving command. But we are talking about a new device geting exclusive due to the fact that it is more powerful not a compatibility issue

N64 was a totally different system from the SNES, that's not something you can dispute (especially given that the N64 was not backwards compatible).  Also, the New 3DS not only has only one "exclusive" (port), it is also the ONLY title we know about for any time in the immediate future for the system.  Also, you did not address the fact that the OS hasn't changed.  I think that's a pretty important detail.

Also, most console manufacturers continue support of their previous gen when they launch the new one, but they also focus their resources on their new gen console.  That is NOT happening with the New 3DS.  They didn't even make a whole big announcement for it.  If it were a new system, they would let people know, so that more people would be willing to buy it.  

Another thing is that you said that Nintendo usually drops support at the drop of a hat, which does seem to happen.  However, your reasoning for the New 3DS makes little sense, because the Wii U is backwards compatible, but they dropped support for the Wii "at the drop of a hat" regardless.  You can try to rationale that it's because they wanted to raise the appeal for the Wii U, but then you just contradict yourself because then that should mean that the regular 3DS should have support dropped.  Instead, we still have some relatively big titles to come for the 3DS.  

There's very little reason to think that the New 3DS is a new gen system.  Having exclusives doesn't suddenly change the generations, because it's pretty obvious the New 3DS is still in the 3DS Family (think about what generation even means).  If you want to count them separately, fine.  But the New 3DS is going to effectively be used as a regular 3DS with a handful of games that cannot be played on the original.

Yea but the thing is... Its not really a "next generation" of a Nintendo handheld. All it is, is just a slight upgrade with a few exclusives (Only One so far)... The DSi did the exact samething when that came out cause the DSi had a camera hence the exclusives. Granted its not the whole "its more powerful" sorta deal but the exclusives on the DSi, Vita, and the n3ds are due to hardware limitations in some form