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Forums - Sales Discussion - Media Create Week Ending 9-14-2014 - Destiny Boost and Huge Debut for SSB

outlawauron on 18 September 2014
the_dengle said:
outlawauron said:

I'd take another look at GTA, COD, and BF sales on PS3.

Yes, Grand Theft Auto, Call of Duty, and Battlefield set the standards we should apply to all Western games, especially new IP.

They're some of the very few popular western games. Destiny is also very big and is in the same genre as COD and BF. I don't think the comparison is invalid.



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Vena on 18 September 2014
outlawauron said:

They're some of the very few popular western games. Destiny is also very big and is in the same genre as COD and BF. I don't think the comparison is invalid.


GTA, CoD (Ghosts aside), and BF, haven't exactly been lambasted and critically whipped by the general gamer press either. In fact, those three have in general been critically praised with Battlefield being the usual low-end.

They're also established IPs. At this point, we don't even know how far Destiny will go if it keeps up its bad returns for Activision and their stock expectations, and if people even bother to support the paid DLC. They had a lot hanging on this game and the news on the returns isn't exactly... good. The poor reception could stint the DLC profit expectations and we get a whole house of cards scenario for this 500$ million project. Activision will survive, thanks to WoDWoW, but Bungie will get hit hard and Destiny may just turn into another blip on the historical radar.



Maynard_Tool on 18 September 2014
the_dengle said:
Maynard_Tool said:
the_dengle said:
Maynard_Tool said:

Guess it'll be fine to combine SSB sales for similar purposes.....

I can't imagine ever combining Smash sales except when comparing them to previous Smash games. Don't make such silly assumptions.


Did you read why i said this? Of course I dont think we need to combine SSB 3DS and Wii U sales.....

But you are assuming Nintendo fans will combine sales of the two when it suits their agenda. I'm trying to reach a middle ground here. A certain user was comparing sales of Hyrule Warriors to sales of a game that launched on two consoles, one of which is 8 years old and has an install base over 10 million in Japan. It makes no more sense to combine Destiny sales on those two platforms than it makes to combine Smash sales on its two platforms, which is to say it makes no sense at all except in specific situations. This is not one of those situations.


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outlawauron on 18 September 2014
Vena said:
outlawauron said:

They're some of the very few popular western games. Destiny is also very big and is in the same genre as COD and BF. I don't think the comparison is invalid.


GTA, CoD (Ghosts aside), and BF, haven't exactly been lambasted and critically whipped by the general gamer press either. In fact, those three have in general been critically praised with Battlefield being the usual low-end.

They're also established IPs. At this point, we don't even know how far Destiny will go if it keeps up its bad returns for Activision and their stock expectations, and if people even bother to support the paid DLC. They had a lot hanging on this game and the news on the returns isn't exactly... good. The poor reception could stint the DLC profit expectations and we get a whole house of cards scenario for this 500$ million project. Activision will survive, thanks to WoDWoW, but Bungie will get hit hard and Destiny may just turn into another blip on the historical radar.

COD has been the whipping child since Modern Warfare 3. GTA and BF are generally well liked though.

I don't think there's a huge percieved gap between Destiny and the others though.



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Ganoncrotch on 18 September 2014

whoa smash almost launchs as a Million seller, damn nice.



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DonFerrari on 18 September 2014
Vena said:
DonFerrari said:

Ok man have your way... everybody was overhyped for Destiny in Japan because there was marketing everywhere... the game actually flopped with 100k sales.

People bought 80k of standalone game because of that, and payed full price on the bundle+game just because of the second color that will be standalone next month...


I said none of that... at all. I am telling you to not compare the incomparable and using Destiny's numbers as they are presented because they are skewed unless you have an identical, other console comparison where you have a bundled, limited console + game scenario.

Also you may want to talk to Activision and their plummetting stock about whether or not Destiny is a flop.

I already said I didn't started the comparison and don't care about, just discussed how it should be done... but your great grief is a bundle without discount... Ok at the LT in the end discount 20k if it makes you so much happy. If the game sold 4x unbundled do you think the color had more influence in the SW sale or that the SW had more influence in the HW or just because you can't prove you just disregard it?

And since Zelda is so unknown and Nintendo fans where so certain that HW was useless and unhyped we may as well say there is no point in comparing anything to it right? Owww no, I remember quite some hype here and how much it would improve sells.



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Smear-Gel on 18 September 2014
retroking1981 said:
Smear-Gel said:
ktay95 said:
retroking1981 said:
Hyrule Warriors breaks 100k, is that good for a Musou game? I thought they did a lot more usually.

I guess the Warriors saving Zelda/Nintendo in Japan had failed somewhat but I guess it can still be a very successful Warriors game in the west with the Zelda name behind it so all is not lost.

The Musou crowd is on the PS consoles, so of course it has preformed poorly for a Musou game. I think its mainly the Zelda fanbase purchasing it and thats the same I would expect from the west. Difference being that Musou>Zelda in Japan but Zelda>>>>>>>>>>>>>Musou in the west.

Well, there's obviously a few Musou fans on the U or it would have flopped. Plus, isnt there also a One Peice  Musou game on Wii U that did alright?


Plus Fist of the North Star 2.

Also wasn't Samurai Warriors 3 out first on the Wii?

Don't get me wrong, Musou's home is PS but I think it has a decent enough impact on Nintendo.


Exactly. People are underestimating Nintendo's Musou base.



Kresnik on 22 September 2014

Sorry it's so late.  Here's Dengeki:

Ranking

Preceding week

Models

Title name

Manufacturer

Release Date

Estimated
number of sales

Total 
number of sales

One

-

3DS

Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS

Nintendo

14/09/13

948,535

948,535

Two

-

PS4

Destiny

SCE

14/09/11

90,472

90,472

Three

-

PS3

Destiny

SCE

14/09/11

48,379

48,379

Four

-

PS3

NARUTO- Naruto - Shippuden Ultimate Ninja Storm Revolution

NAMCO BANDAI Games

14/09/11

40,395

40,395

Five

Two

3DS

2 Bonga specter Watch

Level Five

14/07/10

31,083

1,295,569

Six

One

3DS

Dragon Quest X Online

Square Enix

14/09/04

23,029

75,818

Seven

Three

3DS

2 original specter Watch

Level Five

14/07/10

21,094

1,187,972

Eight

Five

Vita

討鬼 transfer very

Koei Tecmo Games

14/08/28

10,489

129,339

Nine

Nine

Wii U

Mario Kart 8

Nintendo

14/05/29

6,361

689,495

Ten

Eleven

3DS

New Yoshi Island

Nintendo

14/07/24

5,606

182,652

Eleven

Twelve

3DS

Yokai Watch

Level Five

13/07/11

5,039

1,208,375

Twelve

Six

PS3

Persona 4 di Ultimatum Max Ultra suplex hold

Atlas

14/08/28

4,718

100,149

13

Eight

PS4

Sengoku Musou 4

Koei Tecmo Games

14/09/04

4,467

15,452

14

-

Vita

Chronicle chain V

SEGA Networks

14/09/11

4,195

4,195

Fifteen

23

3DS

Space-time great adventure gurus Donto and Taiko

NAMCO BANDAI Games

14/06/26

3,371

175,278

Sixteen

Twenty

3DS

Dragon Ball Heroes Ultimate Mission 2

NAMCO BANDAI Games

14/08/07

3,328

128,567

17

24

PS3

Diablo III Reaper of Souls Ultimate Evil Edition

Square Enix

14/08/21

3,089

30,383

Eighteen

Four

X One

(Which includes a main body bundled sales) Titan Fall

Electronic Arts

14/09/04

2,913

24,483

19

28

PS3

Grand Theft Auto V

Rockstar Games

14/06/26

2,867

50,518

Twenty

13

PS3

Castlevania: Lords of Shadow 2

KONAMI

14/09/04

2,794

8,108

21

Sixteen

Vita

Hyperdimension action Neptune U

Compile Heart

14/08/28

2,478

44,342

22

25

Wii U

Zelda Muso

Koei Tecmo Games

14/08/14

2,461

101,369

23

14

PSP

討鬼 transfer very

Koei Tecmo Games

14/08/28

2,411

22,431

24

37

3DS

Monster Hunter 4

Capcom

13/09/14

2,050

3,431,619

25

21

PS4

The Last of Us Remastered

SCE

14/08/21

2,033

44,425

26

Eighteen

3DS

8 Medabots Kabuto Ver.

Rocket Company

14/08/28

2,006

23,876

27

17

PS3

Super Robot Taisen OG Saga Masou machine God F COFFIN OF THE END

NAMCO BANDAI Games

14/08/28

2,006

33,277

28

27

PS4

Diablo III Reaper of Souls Ultimate Evil Edition

Square Enix

14/08/21

1,994

29,961

29

38

3DS

Mario Kart 7

Nintendo

11/12/01

1,965

2,296,778

Thirty

19

3DS

Medabots 8 Stag Ver.

Rocket Company

14/08/28

1,939

21,521

31

39

3DS

Animal Crossing Tobidase

Nintendo

12/11/08

1,933

3,685,720

32

42

3DS

Pokemon Art Academy

Nintendo

14/06/19

1,739

97,523

33

36

PS3

Ultra Street Fighter IV

Capcom

14/08/07

1,672

74,721

34

31

Vita

Barrett Girls

D3 Publisher

14/08/21

1,624

45,461

35

49

3DS

Mario Party Island tour

Nintendo

14/03/20

1,583

427,511

36

41

Vita

Sword Art Online - Hollow fragments -

NAMCO BANDAI Games

14/04/24

1,583

258,518

37

54

PS3

Gran Turismo 6

SCE

13/12/05

1,561

382,985

38

56

Wii

Ally online leads brave Sleeping Dragon Quest X

Square Enix

13/12/05

1,517

159,778

39

47

Wii U

Dragon Quest X all-in-one package

Square Enix

14/08/07

1,483

10,963

Forty

Ten

X One

Dead Rising 3

Microsoft Japan

14/09/04

1,410

9,358

41

Thirty

PS3

Amazing Spider-Man 2

Square Enix

14/09/04

1,350

4,219

42

45

PS3

Call of Duty Black Ops II (dubbed version)

Square Enix

14/09/04

1,322

2,961

43

29

PS4

Amazing Spider-Man 2

Square Enix

14/09/04

1,306

4,362

44

51

PS4

FIFA 14 World Class Soccer

Electronic Arts

14/02/22

1,233

9,650

45

46

3DS

Kirby Triple Deluxe star

Nintendo

14/01/11

1,224

607,221

46

32

Vita

Walking Dead

Square Enix

14/09/04

1,211

4,049

47

34

3DS

Geist crusher God

Capcom

14/09/04

1,194

3,764

48

52

3DS

Pokemon X

Pokemon

13/10/12

1,182

2,211,031

49

26

Vita

Love Live! School Idol Paradise Vol.2 BiBi unit

Kadokawa Games

14/08/28

1,094

42,221

Fifty

67

3DS

Outing with everyone cheek-chan! Exciting cheeks Land!

Nippon Columbia Co., Ltd.

14/07/17

1,094

16,103

Hardware:

Models

Week estimated number of sales September 8

Week composition ratio September 8 (%)

2014 estimated the number of sales

2014 Composition ratio (%)

PS4

20,734

24.6%

206,611

11.1%

PS3

5,231

6.2%

155,914

8.4%

Vita

10,184

12.1%

397,503

21.4%

PSP

225

0.3%

42,552

2.3%

Wii U

6,042

7.2%

229,613

12.4%

3DS

38,461

45.6%

794,400

42.8%

X One

3,457

4.1%

26,944

1.5%

X360

29

0.0%

3,059

0.2%

Total

84,363

100.0%

1,856,596

100.0%


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Kresnik on 22 September 2014

Media Create back 30:

21 PS3 Diablo III Reaper of Souls 
Ultimate Evil Edition		 Square Enix
22 3DS (Including version included) Monster Hunter 4 Capcom
23 3DS (Including version included) Pokemon X / Y Pokemon
24 PS4 The Last of Us Remastered (The Last Of Us Remastered) SCE
25 PS3 Call of Duty Black Ops II (dubbed version) 
(re-Bargain Edition)		 Square Enix
26 PS3 Super Robot Taisen OG Saga Masou machine God F 
(including Limited Edition) COFFIN OF THE END		 NAMCO BANDAI Games
27 3DS Mario Kart 7 Nintendo
28 Vita Barrett Girls D3 Publisher
29 3DS (Including version included) and Animal Crossing Tobidase Nintendo
Thirty PS4 Diablo III Reaper of Souls 
Ultimate Evil Edition		 Square Enix
31 Wii Super Smash Brothers X Nintendo
32 Vita (Including Limited Edition) hyperdimensional action Neptune U Compile Heart
33 3DS Pokemon Art Academy Nintendo
34 XBOne (Including version shipped only to commemorate the release of Version) Titan Fall Electronic Arts
35 PS3 Castlevania: Lords of Shadow 2 KONAMI
36 Wii U Dragon Quest X all-in-one package Square Enix
37 PS3 (Including Limited Edition) Ultra Street Fighter IV Capcom
38 Vita (Including Limited Edition) - Sword Art Online - Hollow fragment NAMCO BANDAI Games
39 3DS Mario Party Island tour Nintendo
Forty XBOne Dead Rising 3 Microsoft
41 3DS Kirby Triple Deluxe star Nintendo
42 3DS Wagamama Fashion Girls Mode 
declaration greedy! Tokimeki UP!		 Nintendo
43 PS3 Amazing Spider-Man 2 Square Enix
44 Vita Persona 4 The Golden Atlas
45 3DS Brave Lee For The default seek well 
(Ultimate Hits)		 Square Enix
46 3DS Challenge of Aoki Samurai World Soccer Winning Eleven 2014 KONAMI
47 PS4 (Including version bundled) FIFA14 World Class Soccer Electronic Arts
48 3DS Geist crusher God Capcom
49 PS4 Amazing Spider-Man 2 Square Enix
Fifty 3DS Outing! Thrilled cheeks land with everyone cheek-chan! Nippon Columbia Co., Ltd.


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naruball on 22 September 2014

Just finished going through the thread and MAN is it hilarious to read some of the comments.

"It's the white ps4"
"No, it's Destiny"

Guess what? Nobody knows. No, seriously, you just don't. And neither do I. All we can do is guess.

Anyway, wish the vita numbers were a bit higher. Still hoping that the ps4 can turn things around.