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Aura7541 on 17 September 2014
binary solo said:
TBH I was expecting a 90% drop for Xb one, so 3k for the week is ever so slightly better than I thought it would be. Could it's Japan baseline sit at around 1000 or is it destined to fall into the 3 digit range? Sony buying exclusivity for games like Destiny in Japan isn't good for Xb one. Though perhaps the latest financial news about Sony means they have no money left to throw around at 3rd party exclusives.

Good boost for PS4. But people should not kid themselves that it's Destiny pushing that boost, it's the white PS4, no doubt.

I don't think Sony had any money to throw around even before their announcement of the $2.1 billion loss.....



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Ninsect on 17 September 2014
uran10 said:
For the guys that said destiny gave PS4 a bigger boost than MK8 I have some words for you.
Bundle vs no Bundle. seriously. That's it. If mk8 was bundled they would have more than doubled that number (again I'm a little pissed with nintendo of japan). Seriously nintendo, where are the damn bundles!

Again, the bundled game wasn't free...



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DonFerrari on 17 September 2014
Acevil said:
iameternalfire said:
Once the japan games come ps4 is easily going to win japan and have a much healthier baseline...all this talk about Japan is premature.


This is purely out of curiousity, what would you consider a healthy baseline for PS4? 
Without a doubt it will be healthier, but I just need an idea of what people consider healthy in the Japanese market now a days.


For a FW alt? Probably 100k in Japan and 1M WW (weekly)



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Vena on 17 September 2014
spurgeonryan said:
PS4 tripled because of a Western game? Holy cow!


Its the white console, not the game.



Vena on 17 September 2014
Aerys said:

Bundle or no bundle, it's still the same thing : Biggest nintendo IP in Japan against new western IP in Japan, so it's pretty impressive and shows PS4 is the most popular home console there.


Not quite, recolors are a big deal (Japan, particularly, but even here you see this occuring as people want that color) and the bundle itself warps the perception of actual sales because there is no way to get the bundle without Destiny. Its also silly to compare the MK8 launch with this as it is bundleless and, if you wanted to use that logic, several Vita bundles have certainly vaulted it, after strong launch bundles to clear vic... oh...

It just shows that the console can sell. Doesn't show popularity at all.



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DonFerrari on 17 September 2014
Mummelmann said:
3k for the One week 2 with Destiny? Oh lord, I was right to think it'll do worse than the 360 in Japan. And once again there is a major difference in the Wii U numbers between the two trackers, they need to get their collective shit together.


When PS4 is doing a lot worst than PS3... WiiU a lot worst than Wii it is obvious X1 will do a lot worst than X360... and Destiny wasn't released on X1 (and several other games will be exclusive there).



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari on 17 September 2014
Aerys said:
uran10 said:
For the guys that said destiny gave PS4 a bigger boost than MK8 I have some words for you.
Bundle vs no Bundle. seriously. That's it. If mk8 was bundled they would have more than doubled that number (again I'm a little pissed with nintendo of japan). Seriously nintendo, where are the damn bundles!


Bundle or no bundle, it's still the same thing : Biggest nintendo IP in Japan against new western IP in Japan, so it's pretty impressive and shows PS4 is the most popular home console there.

Even more when the bundled game is almost fullpriced... so in the end if it was unbundled white and people decided to buy Destiny separated (100k+ just the game) then I could say the game had an effect.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari on 17 September 2014
binary solo said:
TBH I was expecting a 90% drop for Xb one, so 3k for the week is ever so slightly better than I thought it would be. Could it's Japan baseline sit at around 1000 or is it destined to fall into the 3 digit range? Sony buying exclusivity for games like Destiny in Japan isn't good for Xb one. Though perhaps the latest financial news about Sony means they have no money left to throw around at 3rd party exclusives.

Good boost for PS4. But people should not kid themselves that it's Destiny pushing that boost, it's the white PS4, no doubt.


I would bet Sony didn't need to throw a Yen for the exclusivity when install base is so different.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

LordPhil on 17 September 2014

Incredible PS4 boost!
Predicted 100k Destiny fw for PS4, was close.
Great Smash opening.
Horrible xb1 numbers, but they are expected.



thismeintiel on 17 September 2014

Man, one week and the PS4 already wiped away the sales advantage the XBO had in its launch week. This also goes to show that once the PS4 gets more games that appeal to Japanese gamers it will be getting really nice bumps. Can't wait to see what FFXV week looks like.

Edit:  Also, I think the One is going to be lucky if it can even pull off 400K in Japan.