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bigtakilla said:
spemanig said:
WhiteEaglePL said:
YAY! Still fun. In normal fighting games, I never bother learning the combos but just rely on a few moves and mash buttons. .

Streefighter 4 was terrible , though. Dead Or Alive is my new fav of the genre.


Street Fighter 4 is amazing. And you can still mash buttons in a good fighting game with deep and complex mechanics.

Competitive action, competitive fighting, who cares. If it comes to Wii U expect an EVO tournament.



Great! Still, we have to wait at least 6-8 months after the release of the arcade versions.



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outlawauron said:
Whelp, I take back what I said yesterday.


Whats that? We cant judge it just cuz of wat the developer says especially when there is SSB



spemanig said:
WhiteEaglePL said:
YAY! Still fun. In normal fighting games, I never bother learning the combos but just rely on a few moves and mash buttons. .

Streefighter 4 was terrible , though. Dead Or Alive is my new fav of the genre.


Street Fighter 4 is amazing. And you can still mash buttons in a good fighting game with deep and complex mechanics.

down to forward punch, down to back punch, down to forward kick, down to back kick. There, I just gave away 90% of Mortal Kombat's and Street Fighter's special moves.



tbone51 said:

Ummm???? Want to wait friend? Even SSB wasnt a quote on quote "Competive Fighter" and being labelled as a "Party Brawler" yet its one of the most competitive games to exist. Its also top 2 most popular fighter in the competitive scene and #1 overall in popularity.

Shouldnt take this as anything yet, like LoZ U "open world" i think we should wait before giving judgement. Pokkem fighters can turn out to be one of the most competitive, we need to wait and see. 


But smash isn't a fighting game. It is a party brawler. I'm not worried about it not being competitive. I wanted a standard fighting game with Pokemon. It's nothing like Zelda's open world. Zelda U is open world. There is no discrepency there. You see it. You can walk to it. There are no loading screens. The world is massive. That's an open world. No need to wait. These guys want to distance the game from other fighting games. I don't like that.

I'm not saying I won't like it. I'm saying that if this isn't more typical of a real fighting game, the fact that the Wii U isn't getting any real fighting games like Mortal Kombat X, Street Fighter V, and Tekken 7 actually matters again.



bigtakilla said:

down to forward punch, down to back punch, down to forward kick, down to back kick. There, I just gave away 90% of Mortal Kombat's and Street Fighter's special moves.


Compare that to something like the Naruto fighting games. 



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spemanig said:
bigtakilla said:

down to forward punch, down to back punch, down to forward kick, down to back kick. There, I just gave away 90% of Mortal Kombat's and Street Fighter's special moves.


Compare that to something like the Naruto fighting games. 


Still kind of easy. circle is primary attack, X is jump (or strafe if holding a direction), square is projectiles, and triangle followed by one of those previous commands makes the previous commands stronger. That is literally 100% of characters in Naruto.



spemanig said:
tbone51 said:

Ummm???? Want to wait friend? Even SSB wasnt a quote on quote "Competive Fighter" and being labelled as a "Party Brawler" yet its one of the most competitive games to exist. Its also top 2 most popular fighter in the competitive scene and #1 overall in popularity.

Shouldnt take this as anything yet, like LoZ U "open world" i think we should wait before giving judgement. Pokkem fighters can turn out to be one of the most competitive, we need to wait and see. 


But smash isn't a fighting game. It is a party brawler. I'm not worried about it not being competitive. I wanted a standard fighting game with Pokemon. It's nothing like Zelda's open world. Zelda U is open world. There is no discrepency there. You see it. You can walk to it. There are no loading screens. The world is massive. That's an open world. No need to wait. These guys want to distance the game from other fighting games. I don't like that.

I'm not saying I won't like it. I'm saying that if this isn't more typical of a real fighting game, the fact that the Wii U isn't getting any real fighting games like Mortal Kombat X, Street Fighter V, and Tekken 7 actually matters again.


Smash is a fighting game, just because its not played as a traditional one doesn't mean it isnt one. Its at Evo meaning its a fighting game, so pls lets not start with SSB=/=Fighter.

Party Brawler is a sub category of a Fighter as Mario kart is a kart racer which is a sub category of a racer.

That said, Pokken fighters can be in the same boat, SSB is one of the most competitive games out there in general. Easy to pick up, very very hard to master. No button mashing, etc.

Edit: And Pokken Fighters  could be completely unique, why do you want it to be a reskin of tekken/etc? Thats another factor of why SSB got so popular, its because it doesn't play like other fighters at all.



I don't know if I'll get this if it even comes to the Wii U. I never liked Tekken games.



    

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I think we all just need to wait and see more. I mostly concerned about the diversity of the move sets and amaount of bokemon in it. There are a lot of pokemon that are not strictly fighting type that would make for good characters (Blastoise,Swampert, Scissor, Charzard, Mew Two, Alakazam, Septile)... I haven't cared about a fighting game since tekken tag, but this has my interest. Most important thing is that its fun!



bigtakilla said:


Still kind of easy. circle is primary attack, X is jump (or strafe if holding a direction), square is projectiles, and triangle followed by one of those previous commands makes the previous commands stronger. That is literally 100% of characters in Naruto.


My point is that those naruto games aren't as deep and complex as something like Street Fighter and Tekken.