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VanceIX said:
kljesta64 said:

its not testeless. I live in a fucked up country myself I should know.

OT: India is all about family if any console has a chance its the Wii U.

It is tasteless. I'm Indian, so I should know. 

Anyway, our perspective on this issue clearly differs, so to each his own.

HAHA.

Ok ,thats fair.



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Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
BreedinBull said:

1 Day later, thread title still incorrect. Entire discussion based on a word not even used in the title.

Welcome to VGChartz.

;)


The title is right (probably why no mod complained, and there were mods commenting in the thread... 2 at least). Just look at the post before yours.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
BreedinBull said:

1 Day later, thread title still incorrect. Entire discussion based on a word not even used in the title.

Welcome to VGChartz.

;)


The title is right (probably why no mod complained, and there were mods commenting in the thread... 2 at least). Just look at the post before yours.

I'm being silly



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Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
DonFerrari said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:

Welcome to VGChartz.

;)


The title is right (probably why no mod complained, and there were mods commenting in the thread... 2 at least). Just look at the post before yours.

I'm being silly


Well you have that right =]



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

BeElite said:
teigaga said:

Well he's kinda right, competitive does not mean better selling.

Its games have a higher metacritic.
It has more AAA exclusives
Its cheaper to produce then PS4
It has a busier fall line up then the PS4.
Probably will be in more supply based on what others have said.
Kinect is far more functional then PS eye (not sure about the cost difference though)

The only way the PS4 seems competitive seems to be on the goodwill it has with customers and its power/resolution advantage.

People seem more interested in playing sides, then they are in applying logic.


lol no,

TLoUr is the highest meta of all 3
Other then Forza X1 has no other true aaa
No its not cheaper
No its line up is not busier.
Who cares if there more of what marlets do not overly want?
Kinect is useless to any non native english speaker.

 PS4 is a superior product thats why.

You used no logic at all, just baseless opinion.  

1.TLOU is one title, I was refering to the metacritic average of each respective platform exclusives. I haven't checked recently but Xbox One's was higher just a few months back...its not me saying I prefer XO's titles. Infamous is more my kinda game then Titanfall but we know which has the higher metacritic. (Titanfall)

2.In terms of their fall line ups I did just grab the titles from the top of my head, feel free to add games I forgot...

Xbox One: Halo Master chief Collection, Sunset Overdrive, Project Spark, Ori and the Blind Forest.

PS4: Little Big Planet 3, Driveclub (I'm not sure what else?) 

3.There are whole games orientated around Kinect and its camera, its not just Voice control device. Again not saying I love kinect but its something the PS4 doesn't really have (actual games that use the cam).

4.To me at least its a competitive advantage to be able have a more readily supply of systems available. Seeing as XO hasn't been released in India, we can't make assumptions on its demand.

The PS4 is more powerful system but I really don't think its clear cut which is the superior product, of course if you prefer the PS4 thats completely fine. If we're talking games the Xbox is winning so far both in terms of the number of retail releases and the ratings of those games. Was the orginal xbox better then the PS2 due to its power? Im not so sure.. 



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teigaga said:
BeElite said:
teigaga said:

Well he's kinda right, competitive does not mean better selling.

Its games have a higher metacritic.
It has more AAA exclusives
Its cheaper to produce then PS4
It has a busier fall line up then the PS4.
Probably will be in more supply based on what others have said.
Kinect is far more functional then PS eye (not sure about the cost difference though)

The only way the PS4 seems competitive seems to be on the goodwill it has with customers and its power/resolution advantage.

People seem more interested in playing sides, then they are in applying logic.


lol no,

TLoUr is the highest meta of all 3
Other then Forza X1 has no other true aaa
No its not cheaper
No its line up is not busier.
Who cares if there more of what marlets do not overly want?
Kinect is useless to any non native english speaker.

 PS4 is a superior product thats why.

You used no logic at all, just baseless opinion.  

1.TLOU is one title, I was refering to the metacritic average of each respective platform exclusives. I haven't checked recently but Xbox One's was higher just a few months back...its not me saying I prefer XO's titles. Infamous is more my kinda game then Titanfall but we know which has the higher metacritic. (Titanfall)

2.In terms of their fall line ups I did just grab the titles from the top of my head, feel free to add games I forgot...

Xbox One: Halo Master chief Collection, Sunset Overdrive, Project Spark, Ori and the Blind Forest.

PS4: Little Big Planet 3, Driveclub (I'm not sure what else?) 

3.There are whole games orientated around Kinect and its camera, its not just Voice control device. Again not saying I love kinect but its something the PS4 doesn't really have (actual games that use the cam).

4.To me at least its a competitive advantage to be able have a more readily supply of systems available. Seeing as XO hasn't been released in India, we can't make assumptions on its demand.

The PS4 is more powerful system but I really don't think its clear cut which is the superior product, of course if you prefer the PS4 thats completely fine. If we're talking games the Xbox is winning so far both in terms of the number of retail releases and the ratings of those games. Was the orginal xbox better then the PS2 due to its power? Im not so sure.. 

1 then check again not go by on few months back.

2 HMC Sunset Spark - DC LBP3 Singstar and Using Ori really, PS4 smokes X1 if you bring in digital only/indies.

3 they just unbundled it, thats how much "WORTH" it has.

4 given x1 and PS4 are out in plenty markets, any one and everyone can manage a good assumption about its demend.  Guess what it is.

Its selling casue its a far superior product, PS4 has had something near double the game releases X1 had.  So PS4 wins game wise.  And PS4 games are better rated on meta so it wins on that to ... lol.

So lets Review.  PS4 has more games more better rated games has more powerfull hardware and come swith basic functions you got to buy add ons for with X1.  Ohh and Since day one Plus has been worth it, it took something like 6/7 months before MS gave a free game with Gold for the X1.

So yahh, more facts next time maybe less baseless opinion.



BeElite said:
teigaga said:
BeElite said:
teigaga said:

Well he's kinda right, competitive does not mean better selling.

Its games have a higher metacritic.
It has more AAA exclusives
Its cheaper to produce then PS4
It has a busier fall line up then the PS4.
Probably will be in more supply based on what others have said.
Kinect is far more functional then PS eye (not sure about the cost difference though)

The only way the PS4 seems competitive seems to be on the goodwill it has with customers and its power/resolution advantage.

People seem more interested in playing sides, then they are in applying logic.


lol no,

TLoUr is the highest meta of all 3
Other then Forza X1 has no other true aaa
No its not cheaper
No its line up is not busier.
Who cares if there more of what marlets do not overly want?
Kinect is useless to any non native english speaker.

 PS4 is a superior product thats why.

You used no logic at all, just baseless opinion.  

1.TLOU is one title, I was refering to the metacritic average of each respective platform exclusives. I haven't checked recently but Xbox One's was higher just a few months back...its not me saying I prefer XO's titles. Infamous is more my kinda game then Titanfall but we know which has the higher metacritic. (Titanfall)

2.In terms of their fall line ups I did just grab the titles from the top of my head, feel free to add games I forgot...

Xbox One: Halo Master chief Collection, Sunset Overdrive, Project Spark, Ori and the Blind Forest.

PS4: Little Big Planet 3, Driveclub (I'm not sure what else?) 

3.There are whole games orientated around Kinect and its camera, its not just Voice control device. Again not saying I love kinect but its something the PS4 doesn't really have (actual games that use the cam).

4.To me at least its a competitive advantage to be able have a more readily supply of systems available. Seeing as XO hasn't been released in India, we can't make assumptions on its demand.

The PS4 is more powerful system but I really don't think its clear cut which is the superior product, of course if you prefer the PS4 thats completely fine. If we're talking games the Xbox is winning so far both in terms of the number of retail releases and the ratings of those games. Was the orginal xbox better then the PS2 due to its power? Im not so sure.. 

1 then check again not go by on few months back.

2 HMC Sunset Spark - DC LBP3 Singstar and Using Ori really, PS4 smokes X1 if you bring in digital only/indies.

3 they just unbundled it, thats how much "WORTH" it has.

4 given x1 and PS4 are out in plenty markets, any one and everyone can manage a good assumption about its demend.  Guess what it is.

Its selling casue its a far superior product, PS4 has had something near double the game releases X1 had.  So PS4 wins game wise.  And PS4 games are better rated on meta so it wins on that to ... lol.

So lets Review.  PS4 has more games more better rated games has more powerfull hardware and come swith basic functions you got to buy add ons for with X1.  Ohh and Since day one Plus has been worth it, it took something like 6/7 months before MS gave a free game with Gold for the X1.

So yahh, more facts next time maybe less baseless opinion.

I' haven't taken the time to check so I'll take your word for it that those things that can be quantified are indeed fact. Im still not sure the PS4 has more retail releases which is what I specified, but as you pointed out my mental refering is going a few months back so is probably out of date... Anyways, i'm glad its moved away from a sales discussion, to a discussion on features which actually make somethig competitive, which is the whole point of the post-

P.S I think using Singstar is more laughable then Ori which looks gorgeous IMO.



teigaga said:

P.S I think using Singstar is more laughable then Ori which looks gorgeous IMO.

You really lack a grasp on logic.

Ori gorgeous or not adds no merit to your argument, as in september alone PS4 is getting Natural Doctrine and The Vanishing of Ethen. 

Thus its laughble you are trying to spin a indie into a strength for X1 since PS4 out guns it on that front by a conciderable margin pretty much known to all, except you it seems.



PS4 is poopy compared to XB1



teigaga said:
BeElite said:
teigaga said:

1.TLOU is one title, I was refering to the metacritic average of each respective platform exclusives. I haven't checked recently but Xbox One's was higher just a few months back...its not me saying I prefer XO's titles. Infamous is more my kinda game then Titanfall but we know which has the higher metacritic. (Titanfall)

2.In terms of their fall line ups I did just grab the titles from the top of my head, feel free to add games I forgot...

Xbox One: Halo Master chief Collection, Sunset Overdrive, Project Spark, Ori and the Blind Forest.

PS4: Little Big Planet 3, Driveclub (I'm not sure what else?) 

3.There are whole games orientated around Kinect and its camera, its not just Voice control device. Again not saying I love kinect but its something the PS4 doesn't really have (actual games that use the cam).

4.To me at least its a competitive advantage to be able have a more readily supply of systems available. Seeing as XO hasn't been released in India, we can't make assumptions on its demand.

The PS4 is more powerful system but I really don't think its clear cut which is the superior product, of course if you prefer the PS4 thats completely fine. If we're talking games the Xbox is winning so far both in terms of the number of retail releases and the ratings of those games. Was the orginal xbox better then the PS2 due to its power? Im not so sure.. 

1 then check again not go by on few months back.

2 HMC Sunset Spark - DC LBP3 Singstar and Using Ori really, PS4 smokes X1 if you bring in digital only/indies.

3 they just unbundled it, thats how much "WORTH" it has.

4 given x1 and PS4 are out in plenty markets, any one and everyone can manage a good assumption about its demend.  Guess what it is.

Its selling casue its a far superior product, PS4 has had something near double the game releases X1 had.  So PS4 wins game wise.  And PS4 games are better rated on meta so it wins on that to ... lol.

So lets Review.  PS4 has more games more better rated games has more powerfull hardware and come swith basic functions you got to buy add ons for with X1.  Ohh and Since day one Plus has been worth it, it took something like 6/7 months before MS gave a free game with Gold for the X1.

So yahh, more facts next time maybe less baseless opinion.

I' haven't taken the time to check so I'll take your word for it that those things that can be quantified are indeed fact. Im still not sure the PS4 has more retail releases which is what I specified, but as you pointed out my mental refering is going a few months back so is probably out of date... Anyways, i'm glad its moved away from a sales discussion, to a discussion on features which actually make somethig competitive, which is the whole point of the post-

P.S I think using Singstar is more laughable then Ori which looks gorgeous IMO.


Well the question was "most competitive" and that is the guy who is winning.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."