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DonFerrari said:
teigaga said:
BeElite said:

1 then check again not go by on few months back.

2 HMC Sunset Spark - DC LBP3 Singstar and Using Ori really, PS4 smokes X1 if you bring in digital only/indies.

3 they just unbundled it, thats how much "WORTH" it has.

4 given x1 and PS4 are out in plenty markets, any one and everyone can manage a good assumption about its demend.  Guess what it is.

Its selling casue its a far superior product, PS4 has had something near double the game releases X1 had.  So PS4 wins game wise.  And PS4 games are better rated on meta so it wins on that to ... lol.

So lets Review.  PS4 has more games more better rated games has more powerfull hardware and come swith basic functions you got to buy add ons for with X1.  Ohh and Since day one Plus has been worth it, it took something like 6/7 months before MS gave a free game with Gold for the X1.

So yahh, more facts next time maybe less baseless opinion.

I' haven't taken the time to check so I'll take your word for it that those things that can be quantified are indeed fact. Im still not sure the PS4 has more retail releases which is what I specified, but as you pointed out my mental refering is going a few months back so is probably out of date... Anyways, i'm glad its moved away from a sales discussion, to a discussion on features which actually make somethig competitive, which is the whole point of the post-

P.S I think using Singstar is more laughable then Ori which looks gorgeous IMO.


Well the question was "most competitive" and that is the guy who is winning.

Its context sensitive, I personally think context here was clearly not that they are winning, but that on paper they have features which make them competitive compared to sony's features. Read the actual article for more clarification. Just some examples of what competitive means taken from the web.. The bolded is relevant to Xbox.

1.(Commerce) sufficiently low in price or high in quality to be successful against commercial rivals 
2.relating to or characterized by an urge to compete
3.well suited for competition: a competitive price. (exchange price for games, features, bundles)





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teigaga said:
DonFerrari said:
teigaga said:

I' haven't taken the time to check so I'll take your word for it that those things that can be quantified are indeed fact. Im still not sure the PS4 has more retail releases which is what I specified, but as you pointed out my mental refering is going a few months back so is probably out of date... Anyways, i'm glad its moved away from a sales discussion, to a discussion on features which actually make somethig competitive, which is the whole point of the post-

P.S I think using Singstar is more laughable then Ori which looks gorgeous IMO.


Well the question was "most competitive" and that is the guy who is winning.

Its context sensitive, I personally think context here was clearly not that they are winning, but that on paper they have features which make them competitive compared to sony's features. Read the actual article for more clarification. Just some examples of what competitive means taken from the web.. The bolded is relevant to Xbox.

1.(Commerce) sufficiently low in price or high in quality to be successful against commercial rivals 
2.relating to or characterized by an urge to compete
3.well suited for competition: a competitive price. (exchange price for games, features, bundles)



I read the article and posted it after reading this is why I asked if he was spinning or trolling. Yes you can be price competitive (but to be "the most" you need to be cheaper, WiiU wins here), feature (but to be "the most" but they would have to work there), content (but to be "the most" you have more games 1st party WiiU win, all summed PS4 wins).

To be competitivein broad view you must be seem as valuable, but when you are the console selling the least you can't say you are the most competitive. The PR guy was trying to pass his opinion (of having the best product) as a fact they are most competitive. Read the article again.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

pokoko said:

PR is PR. Everyone does it. Besides, he's talking about the features, not system sales.

"For one, we believe our portfolio is far more competitive, not just on the games side, but the stuff we offer from an entertainment perspective. Whether it’s live TV, whether it’s voice commands, whether it’s the entertainment portfolio, I think we are more comprehensive than any other console on the market right now."


"Voice commands" ?? Really? Microsoft is still trumpeting 'voice commands' as a compelling, differentiating feature of the X1? 

Two reality checks on that:

1) The PS4 has voice commands too.

2) The X1 voice commands rely on that camera-thingy (what was it called again? Started with a "K" I think) that is NO LONGER BUNDLED with the console.



HaloReach2014 said:
PS4 is poopy compared to XB1


New Microsoft India marketing campaign slogan confirmed!



HaloReach2014 said:
PS4 is poopy compared to XB1

Poopy seems to be seeling really well.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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really? i don´t think so...

ps4 year 2015 at this moment we know...

the order 1886

bloodborne

until dawn

uncharted 4

ratchet and clank reborn

tearaway

Rime



shikamaru317 said:
Not sure why he's so confident that Xbox One will sell that well in India though. Hopefully he knows something we don't.


Those hidden AAA India exclusives!  One could only hope!