Seece said:
WiiU-Dude said:
Seece said:
XB1 competing with PS4 in US alone shows it will end up well ahead of WiiU WW.
Combined the 360/PS3 userbase last gen in US was 70m~ even a 40m/30m split to PS4 (which isn't even close to being generous or sample like from current figures (3.05m vs 3.76m).
Then add on the fact US is 50% of Xbox audience and you're looking at 45/50m lifetime for XB1 as it currently stands (they could still take back US if they tried harder).
Point being, WiiU is going to struggle to hit 20m, it's struggling in every region. XB1 will do more in US than WiiU will WW lifetime by the end of this gen. Heck, it's already sold more in US this year than WiiU has shipped units WW. |
This thinking falls apart because a huge percentage of American 360 owners are defecting to PS4. Xbox One is tanking in Europe thus far, Xbox One has some tough sledding in front of it. Not that the Wii U doesn't have its issues, but if it succeeds in being the 'second system', the Xbox could struggle. I do believe Xbox One likely will capture 2nd place, but its going to eerily be like gen 6 with Xbox just edging Gamecube.
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They are? Did you bother looking at the figures I put in front of you?
3.05m for XB1 and 3.76m for PS4, for the past 9 months. If it continues at that rate up to 70m~ you're looking at 30.5m XB1's and 37.6m PS4's.
Even this past month it was 131k vs 187k.
Wiiu isn't the second system though is it? It's been out for 2 years now nearly and its sales are barely in front of XB1's. It's not got good sales in any region. Japan is very weak, and they're on par in Europe.
It won't be remotely close.
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I did see your numbers, but I am not convinced...per se. First, I am looking globally. I see Europe very different than you. The honeymoon is over for Xbox. Europe is not likely to have quite the bump for Halo that we see in America so really not much is going to change it's fortune over there. PS4 is likely not going to relenquish it's domination by that I mean in terms of multiplats. The Wii U will likely see it's sales soldier on modestly on it's 1st party and exclusive offers during it's lifetime there. It will become the 'second system' of choice. The gap between Xbox One and Wii U from vgchartz most recent number is 7.5k with Wii U and 40k with PS4 that is coming off the price drop from losing the kinect even! Wii U will continue to soldier on with it's 7.5 to 15k sales in Japan while the Xbox one will be lucky to see 1k a week with the occasional slight bump. That is quite an equalizer with the American market being the XBO's only stronghold and I say that loosely because PS4 is not likely going to lose it's iron grip on North America. I mean the Wii U is only tracking 13k less than XBO in America even after losing the Kinect and the Wii U on the strength of a game that came out in May! NOW HAVING SAID ALL THAT, I still think Xbox One will find a way to eventually take second. Right now it would appear like I said XBox to Gamecube type sales and difference, but the lack of games foe Wii U could truly add up over time. If 3rd parties truly continue to shun the Wii U it could hurt them in the long run regardless the strength of Nintendo's 1st party offerings. If the Xbox can continue to match PS4 for multiplats I do believe in the long run that will be the reason XBO eventually takes the 2nd spot. The question becomes by how much. If the Wii U continues to keep it's lead over XBO, perhaps more Japanese releases might see the light of day here and perhaps even games specifically for the Wii U might start to be released by Ubisoft, Activision, and EA again just with modest budgets. Who knows. But like I said in my initial post, I do believe XBO will likely overtake the Wii U. I am a Nintendo diehard and I have very sentimental reasons for it. The irony here is, I intend to buy an Xbox One before I buy the PS4 - lol. My oldest son is a Forza nut!! Understand, i love videogames and all systems offer wonderful experiences...however, they all pale next to the partriach, the last true game company...Nintendo.
