Like i said, every person with common sense knew this
Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:
PS4: 17m XB1: 10m WiiU: 10m Vita: 10m
Like i said, every person with common sense knew this
Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:
PS4: 17m XB1: 10m WiiU: 10m Vita: 10m
KylieDog said:
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"He also confirmed Square Enix are free to do anything the want with the game and the franchise after the deal has ended, including releasing on other consoles"

| melbye said: Dammit, Phil Spencer makes it hard to dislike XBOX |
Perhaps, but Greenberg makes it easy. Seems like good cop bad cop tactics to me. If the last "official" word from MS is all soft and soothing tones it may be hoped that people will forget the PR crap that went on, including from CD, over the previous day or so.
Greenberg specifically tweeted a response to appear to contradict what Keighly was suggesting, that RTR is only a 2015 exclusive. Making it seem like it's a permanent exclusive. And while Spencer is right that his job is not to talk about whether or not the game will come to other platforms it is MS's duty not to mislead.
MS is directly responsible for the misleading crap that went on in the last 24 hours when in the original announcement they could simply have said, without specifics, that MS and SE/CD have an exclusivity arrangement which means the only place you'll be able to play RTR in 2015 is on Xbox. The the path for Tomb Raider from 2016 onwards is entirely in SE/CD'S hands, we are just here to say RTR in 2015 is only on Xbox.
Seriously, has MS made any actual mileage out of 24 hours of uncertainty as to the extent of the exclusivity? Only the anti-Xbox brigade are passed off in any way. But are console agnostics who are yet to decide what to buy this generation going to be more or less likely to go with Xbox now after MS and SE/CD chose to treat gamers like drooling idiots who can't spot bullshit when it's served up to them?
Anyway I feel vindicated in my assertion that moneyhatting existing IP for full permanent exclusivity is not a viable proposition. And aside from a few isolated examples it never really has been.
“The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell
"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."
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KylieDog said:
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The obfuscation is too strong for RTR to be a permaexclusive. If it was a permaexclusive then Spencer would have said it outright. Because from a MS perspective a permaexclusive is hugely good news, and even more if it's for all mainline sequels and not something you would want to obfuscate around. Phil's response is entirely consistent with a "yes the game will likely come to PS4 and PC but hell if I'm going to come out and actually say that to anyone" response.
Phil's ok, and he's probably got as close to confirming future releases on competing platforms as he's allowed to do as a MS PR schill. So I'm not going to criticise what he's said here. It's what's been said in the preceding 24 has that merits a lot of criticism.
“The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell
"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."
Jimi Hendrix
so its cross gen? what a load of crap
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Landguy said:
I said that exact same thing in my post, what is your point? |
The point is that it's a strange claim to say that those who "actually would have been interested in the game" will get it on XB1, because that's not true at all. Not all tomb raider fans would've bought an X1 for it...especially now that they know it's timed.
| Fusioncode said: This why I like you Phil. No PR bullshit, just straight answers. |
Cant say what he was doing was that, he was squirming around it doing pr bs talk. The interviewer just did a good job and didnt pander to him.
Ninsect said:
As I told Starcraft, the deal has a duration so unless you believe it lasts 2+ years there will be a PS4 version (and PC). Heck, they've most likely already started on those versions |
As you told Starcraft, based on your own personal and intimate knowledge of the deal 
Kyliedog is correct. Phil very carefully specifies that he is discussing the IP only. The 'deal' could very well be the duration before any Tomb Raider IP of substance can appear on other platforms - meaning its entirely feasible that this Tomb Raider game will skip the PS4 and PC altogether.
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Teeqoz said:
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Which is great and all, except Phil didn't actually say that did he? The writer said that, making the same inaccurate extrapolation you are.
KylieDog is correct. Neither of us are saying that this excludes the game from ever coming to PS4. But you're looking for a confirmation that simply is not there.
As of this moment, no member of the public has any reliable information that they'll ever play Rise of the Tomb Raider on a PS4.
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starcraft said:
Which is great and all, except Phil didn't actually say that did he? The writer said that, making the same inaccurate extrapolation you are. KylieDog is correct. Neither of us are saying that this excludes the game from ever coming to PS4. But you're looking for a confirmation that simply is not there. As of this moment, no member of the public has any reliable information that they'll ever play Rise of the Tomb Raider on a PS4. |
