Nonwe need War! Lets Goooo.... Me vs you right now >:(

Lmao, seriously though, this is why i dont understand why certain threads are made. Oh well.... All i kno is i think its better if everyone does good (of course root for your company of choice for best sales), seeing PSV with no love and WiiU constent hate is ridiculous :-/

Well, PS4 numbers seems like they're following my expectations. 16-18 mill sold before 2015 was my prediction and I never changed my mind one bit. PS4 is a success even "without games". After September 2014 and most 2015 we will start seeing record numbers again for PS4.

PS3 should be around 85 mill shipped right now, probably will finish the next fiscal year around 90m. I must admit that it's becoming more difficult PS3 will reach 100m lifetime, but i'm still faithful.

Both consoles are a success for Sony financially right now. It can't be said the same about the rest, but, "progress is progress".

And off topic, if some people are comparing numbers with other companies is something inevitable...Even IGN is comparing the differences between PS4 and XBox One sales. I don't see the problem. If someone don't like what he's reading, you have a very easy solution: Scroll down the screen until the next post, and don't waste the time in something you think is stupid.

That market is incredibly congested with far bigger brands vying for the general control and the scraps that fall off after. They have a market for their products, yes, but is it worth it in the long run to fight against the phone giants in Samsung and Apple, and then also compete against the other side availabilities like Amazon, HTC, and Nokia?

I'm more worried that their billion dollar red venture from from the PS3 era is going to cause them to turn stagnant and fold in on themselves because they don't have the capital (and junk status) to really risk trying things that could move them out of debt. They can continue to milk what is profitable, yes, but any sudden market shifts could then cause serious issues.

I'm not advocating that they kill it just yet, but that they need to be seriously aware of what their money is doing.

Yeah mobile really is a slippery slope for them, and I personally don't think its an easy answer. I see the point of view from both sides on that one. Its risky as hell and very costly but the potential profits can be massive. At the same time you have Apple and Samsung completely dominating the market and people like what they are used to for the most part.

Me personally I think they should do like I said, slim down the division, cut anything thats not working, and only produce products they have had success with. No risky phones or trying to push a brand or product thats not working.

But I see why some people say just cut / sell it as well. I think there's arguments for both sides on that one.

Isnt it their low/mid end phones thats not selling? I highly doubt the Z2 was down (compared to their previous flagship Z1). Nt sure if we have breakdown of that.

But yeah LG made a comeback with their G3 (after failing with the G2, G1). HTC did the same thing with the HTC One and its latest version.

People are always looking for the next best phone, and Sony has never had that phone but they very close to making it. So considering that they are really close to having the best phone on the market they shouldnt give it up right now...its not making massive losses they can keep at it a bit more.

They also need to have a decent launch in the states with their next flagship...but they cant seem to even get the US carriers to sell their phones lol. Which is pretty bad. If they can sort these things out then they can start competing for that 3rd place.

I think its too early to ditch mobile.

That's what really makes it worth it imo.

So this is the first time Sony is making a profit after a very long time without the need to sell some building?

Regarding the mobile discussion. Sony had very little to win and a lot to lose in the TV department a few years back. The persistance in the TV business was more a thing of ego from Sony than anything else.

But with Mobile I think it's the opposite. They have little to lose but they have a lot, i mean A LOT to win if they, miraculously start competing with Samsung or Apple (In my opinion, this will never happen but who knows....).

Xperias are very good mobiles but they lack charisma. People who buys a Samsung and is very satisfied with it, don't see any reason to change to the competition. Sony must start focusing on software rather than hardware in the mobile sector. Find something that becomes "the next big thing" and not something that is slightly better than the rest.....

Only for the quarter, they will still be making a less on the year.