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Forums - Sony Discussion - SONY Q1 FY 2014 results: 3.5m PS3+PS4, 0.75m PSP+PSV+PSVTV. $265m net profit.

phaedruss on 31 July 2014
Turkish said:
GProgrammer said:
I want to know is, How can the 3DS ship 820k last quarter and the PS4 over 2500k , Yet here week after week on the vgchartz frontpage 3DS and PS4 have about the same weekly numbers


Vgchartz numbers aren't real, they're estimates. Ofcourse with estimates they will have errors, in this case they're GIGANTIC. Next quarter PS4 will still outship 3DS by 3:1 again and yet on these "weekly sales" they'll be close or 3DS beating PS4 until they adjust the LTD numbers lol. Remember vgchartz were pretty adamant that Xbone was outselling PS4 in the US month after month.

Yep people tend to forget at the end of the day Vgchartz is an estimate using many different factors and tools and past trends etc.



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DonFerrari on 31 July 2014

Kowen how sony profitting on HW (as announced on May) have to do with ps+ revenue that we don't even know the margin of profit?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari on 31 July 2014
kowenicki said:
DonFerrari said:
Kowen how sony profitting on HW (as announced on May) have to do with ps+ revenue that we don't even know the margin of profit?


PS+ (like LIVE) is the real cash cow of gaming.

Its pretty obvious.

 

 

I'm not asking how sony is making 48M profit this Quarter... I am asking about your answer when the guy said sony is making profit on the HARDWARE, so that have nothing to do with PS+ so your answer was innacurate.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

gooch_destroyer on 31 July 2014
kowenicki said:
Turkish said:
They're turning profit so fast with PS4 it's crazy. Even with PS2 it took them more than a year to make a profit.


cough paid for multiplayer cough.

No need to be salty here.



DonFerrari on 31 July 2014
kowenicki said:
DonFerrari said:
kowenicki said:


PS+ (like LIVE) is the real cash cow of gaming.

Its pretty obvious.

 

 

I'm not asking how sony is making 48M profit this Quarter... I am asking about your answer when the guy said sony is making profit on the HARDWARE, so that have nothing to do with PS+ so your answer was innacurate.

how much profit did he say?

He didn't said any, just that it is fast, even faster than PS2 to start profiting on HW. All of that is true and unrelated to PS+.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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DonFerrari on 01 August 2014
kowenicki said:
DonFerrari said:
kowenicki sai

how much profit did he say?

He didn't said any, just that it is fast, even faster than PS2 to start profiting on HW. All of that is true and unrelated to PS+.


Yes and it could be 1 cent profit per sold console then...

My point, which I thought was obvious, was that the reason for the turn around in profit is largely due to uptake in PS+ subscriptions, whatever Sony may say.  This is also obvious.  A few million extra subscribers sonce ps4 introduction is good money.  (PS+ up 200% since PS4, or rather, since paid for multiplayer introduced)

Your answer to him is still unrelated to his claim. Sure we can suppose that most of profit is from ps+ (ignoring cost and margin) and say they profit 1 cent on HW only, but that wasn't his point, sounds more like a dig against sony because when you said they only profit on hw because of ps+ you were spinning the point.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari on 01 August 2014
kowenicki said:
DonFerrari said


Yes and it could be 1 cent profit per sold console then...

My point, which I thought was obvious, was that the reason for the turn around in profit is largely due to uptake in PS+ subscriptions, whatever Sony may say.  This is also obvious.  A few million extra subscribers sonce ps4 introduction is good money.  (PS+ up 200% since PS4, or rather, since paid for multiplayer introduced)

Your answer to him is still unrelated to his claim. Sure we can suppose that most of profit is from ps+ (ignoring cost and margin) and say they profit 1 cent on HW only, but that wasn't his point, sounds more like a dig against sony because when you said they only profit on hw because of ps+ you were spinning the point.


Well, it wasnt, I didnt even read his point that way, I didnt intend to respond directly to any point about hardware.  I was just saying that Game is profitable now due in large part to paid for multiplayer.  They should have done it years ago.  It wasnt a dig at them, far from it...  I am congratulating them for wising up and not listening to silly fanboys.

Ok I'll accept it was just reading different than me. And yes good sw sales, strong digital only and ps+ were the foundation of this profit. Myself I don't agree with paid MP but understand the reason. For me it's indiferent since I don't MP and like and subscribed for Ps+ because of the benefits.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."