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S.T.A.G.E. on 27 July 2014
LudicrousSpeed said:
poklane said:

 

Some assistance with one game that they made does not change the fact that From Software made the game, or that they were known long before Demon's Souls.

Sony supported the game so much they opted to pass on publishing it outside of Japan, and it went on to sell almost 4 times as much outside of Japan and was a big enough success that it spawned Dark Souls, which is a bigger franchise than Demons Souls.

Of course does it really matter? From was already a "respected studio" and have been for 20 years.


So...essentially Sony Japan and SSM deserve zero credit for helping numerous studios help their games even when they were in limbo. If it wasnt for their help and expertise most of these studios would've failed or not made as great a product.



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Valerik on 27 July 2014

I have to say, the first From Software game I really enjoyed was 3D Dot Game Heroes followed by Demon's Souls and the Dark Souls series. Really looking forward to their future work.



Experimental42 on 27 July 2014
estebxx said:


No it doesnt... both games have very different lore, people just like to tie in little things here and there to try and relate both games despite that From has said a billion time that DaS is a spiritual sequel and not a Sequel, the only real realtion betwen the two games is Patches (the NPC) but thats a easter egg that From has used even in the Armored Core series, anyway if you played BOTH games you should now how vastly Different the lore is.

Spoilers for Demon's Souls ending:


If you choose to kill the maiden in black, the grey fog shrouding Boletaria eventually consumes everything and civilization ends. At the start of Dark Souls you're told that the entire world is shrouded in a grey fog where only the eternal dragons lived, but there's evidence that other creatures lived there previously. The true King Allant's words during and after fighting him can be seen as foreshadowing the curse of Dark Souls. There are a lot of easter eggs between all 3 entries to the souls series hinting that they're connected.



LudicrousSpeed on 27 July 2014
S.T.A.G.E. said:

So...essentially Sony Japan and SSM deserve zero credit for helping numerous studios help their games even when they were in limbo. If it wasnt for their help and expertise most of these studios would've failed or not made as great a product.

What does Sony Santa Monica have to do with this thread and this situation?

Are you like.. 16 and too young to know that From Software has been around for 20 years on consoles?

You're getting defensive because it's Sony, but the bolded is hilarious. So while you're asking about credit, the title of the thread implies that it's actually From Software that deserves no credit. They made lots of good games before Demon's Souls. Have went on to make a bigger IP than Demon's Souls after it came out. Been making console games for 20 years. But no no, they only just recently became a "respected studio" because Sony Japan helped in some way with developing one of their games. LOL



S.T.A.G.E. on 27 July 2014
LudicrousSpeed said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

So...essentially Sony Japan and SSM deserve zero credit for helping numerous studios help their games even when they were in limbo. If it wasnt for their help and expertise most of these studios would've failed or not made as great a product.

What does Sony Santa Monica have to do with this thread and this situation?

Are you like.. 16 and too young to know that From Software has been around for 20 years on consoles?

You're getting defensive because it's Sony, but the bolded is hilarious. So while you're asking about credit, the title of the thread implies that it's actually From Software that deserves no credit. They made lots of good games before Demon's Souls. Have went on to make a bigger IP than Demon's Souls after it came out. Been making console games for 20 years. But no no, they only just recently became a "respected studio" because Sony Japan helped in some way with developing one of their games. LOL

No. Its mostly From Softwares games. I am stating that Sony has helped numerous studios either halfway or help them finish their titles. I used SSM because SSM serve the same purpose as Sony Japan. They help studios for quality assurance to finish games because the game is being published under Sony's name. Sony don't just pick random companies and just pay them. More often than not they would be help them or else their studios that help the third party would actually be making their own IP's.



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Dgc1808 on 27 July 2014
phaedruss said:
A lot of people love Armored Core, it's a hardcore series if there was ever one. Demon's Souls was all From Software with Sony almost rejecting it entirely.


This is false. Demon's Souls only happened because one of the big guys at SONY Japan approached FromSoftware about making a new King's Field. Demon's Souls was also co-developed by SONY Japan and SONY now owns the IP. The only rejection from SONY was that they didn't expect the game to be big after it was revealed. Which shouldn't surprise any one because it did not get good press after its reveal. Many people, including ones on this forum said it looked boring and uninspired. Didn't help that what we we first saw was a laggy mess, either.  The first shipment to Japan was only 40K and sold out quickly to SONYs surprise. It become a hit in Japan but they still didn't expect it to take off anywhere else. Then Atlus steps in and gets permission from SONY to bring it to the US where it did succeed and Namco followed for Eu where it did the  same. SONY even admitted they regret not bringing the game over themselves.



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LudicrousSpeed on 27 July 2014
S.T.A.G.E. said:

No. Its mostly From Softwares games. I am stating that Sony has helped numerous studios either halfway or help them finish their titles. I used SSM because SSM serve the same purpose as Sony Japan. They help studios for quality assurance to finish games because the game is being published under Sony's name. Sony don't just pick random companies and just pay them. More often than not they would be help them or else their studios that help the third party would actually be making their own IP's.

Could have ended the reply right there, the rest is just you gushing over Sony. So you disagree with the OP and agree with me then. Thanks.



Blob on 27 July 2014

The internet made from Software a respected/known company. The PS3 had a lack of games at the time so any game especially an exclusive not being released caused a story. Then an internet petition gave atlus the ammo to publish it out west were it quickly became an internet darling and this word of mouth sold dark souls.



S.T.A.G.E. on 27 July 2014
LudicrousSpeed said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

No. Its mostly From Softwares games. I am stating that Sony has helped numerous studios either halfway or help them finish their titles. I used SSM because SSM serve the same purpose as Sony Japan. They help studios for quality assurance to finish games because the game is being published under Sony's name. Sony don't just pick random companies and just pay them. More often than not they would be help them or else their studios that help the third party would actually be making their own IP's.

Could have ended the reply right there, the rest is just you gushing over Sony. So you disagree with the OP and agree with me then. Thanks.


Believe what you want. You're as biased as it gets.



LudicrousSpeed on 27 July 2014
S.T.A.G.E. said:
LudicrousSpeed said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

No. Its mostly From Softwares games. I am stating that Sony has helped numerous studios either halfway or help them finish their titles. I used SSM because SSM serve the same purpose as Sony Japan. They help studios for quality assurance to finish games because the game is being published under Sony's name. Sony don't just pick random companies and just pay them. More often than not they would be help them or else their studios that help the third party would actually be making their own IP's.

Could have ended the reply right there, the rest is just you gushing over Sony. So you disagree with the OP and agree with me then. Thanks.


Believe what you want. You're as biased as it gets.

lol, what does any supposed bias have to do with a word I typed?

Take out the irrelevant stuff about how Sony helps studios, and you're left with you implying From is "mostly" responsible. So should they not "mostly" get the credit? Or does a 20 year history and 60+ released games not mean a thing until Sony Japan graces you with their presence?