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S.T.A.G.E. on 27 July 2014
LudicrousSpeed said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Assisted is the word. Assisted. Any way you slice it Sony helped and published it. They just didn't believe the game would become as huge as it did. Sony has gained a huge reputation for not just paying companies to make games but helping them make it. Demon Souls was supposed to be a successor to Kings Field, but the head of Sony Japan saw the flaws in those games and wanted to help make he game better. It was a tandem creation even though it came from the spiritual roots of Kings Field. This is why I give Software major credit for the game because at its core it is their game, but without Sony the direction would've been similar to their past games. Dark Souls is an offshoot product of the same concept. Anytime Sony and Software make a game its something special.

My only regret was that Sony couldn't help them with Enchanted Arms because that was multiplat from the start. Game would've been so much better.

Again, all irrelevant. Maybe you are thinking the thread title is "Has Sony Made Demon's Souls a Well Respected Game?" because only then would all this stuff about how involved Sony supposedly was and what changes they supposedly made actually mean something.

The title asks if Sony made From Software a well respected studio. So again, I ask you. In their 60+ game history, do you think From Software was already well respected, or not? Thanks.

Also, regarding the role the "head of Sony Japan" had in the game, you should tell the director Hidetaka Miyazaki about that because he apparently disagrees. According to him there was very little ever changed from the design his team initially presented to Sony and they even expected Sony at some time to drop in and tell them to "casual up" the game a bit and make it more accessible but Sony never told them to change anything. You're giving From Software too little credit and, per usual, Sony too much.

I would agree that Sony made Demon's Souls a better game. They were a great partner and other publishers would have asked for more changes. Of course, that's an entirely different question than the OP is asking.

Well... I would say yes. Growing up with Software I was never as impressed as they've been since Demon Souls. As I said, I would've loved for them to have helped make Enchanted Arms as well, but that was multiplat to Microsoft as well, so they were on their own there.



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S.T.A.G.E. on 27 July 2014
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:

Niche games generally have low metacritics, AC has a die hard fanbase and since I started with For Answer I've loved the series

 

OT: From was AA, then

Demon and Dark Souls its now AAA, low end AAA but AAA.


Not true. Niche games can have a small market. Niche applies to the smaller market the game is targeting, not the quality. Sony believed the series was going to be niche so only published it as such, but it blew up into something greater than Sony had thought possible.



kupomogli on 27 July 2014
JGarret said:
In a way, they helped, I guess, but the credit goes largely to From themselves.

Of all the new IPs that were created in the last gen, Souls is my favorite one, and with the downfall of so many Japanese developers that used to be on top of the hill up until the 6th gen, From Software (along with Platinum) have become my favorite Japanese 3rd party developer.

And I also enjoyed 3D Dot Game Heroes quite a lot.

I forgot about 3D Dot Game Heroes.  That was actually developed by Silicon Studios and published by From Software in Japan, published by Atlus in the west.  Silicon Studios also developed Bravely Default and is developing Bravely Default 2.  If there's a dev that a company like Square, From, Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft, etc, should purchase, I'd say it's this one.  They've released two great games and are slowly becoming a recognized developer.  Buy them before they're too well known and popular to reap the benefits at the lowest cost possible.



Ali_16x on 27 July 2014
Namiirei said:
No love for 3d dot game heroes ? :(

I liked this game, very cool.


3D Dot Game Heroes was made by Silicon Studios, FromSoftware only published the game in Japan. I would have known if FromSoftware made an awesome game like 3D Dot Game. But yeah, that game was awesome. So I wouldn't put 3D Dot Game in the list since they didn't develop it.



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fluky-nintendy on 27 July 2014
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:

Niche games generally have low metacritics, AC has a die hard fanbase and since I started with For Answer I've loved the series

 

OT: From was AA, then

Demon and Dark Souls its now AAA, low end AAA but AAA.


Not true. Niche games can have a small market. Niche applies to the smaller market the game is targeting, not the quality. Sony believed the series was going to be niche so only published it as such, but it blew up into something greater than Sony had thought possible.

Bold: I agree and I think that was one of the reasons From made Dark Souls a multiplat, maybe because Sony didn't believe Demon's would have such great reception. So From knew they were going to be big in Dark and went for it on their own. 

One thing many fans including me thought that both Dark Souls and Dark Souls 2 lacked some key elements that made Demon's so good, such as a darker story, darker enviroments and a more punch-in-the-stomach approach. Also graphically many thought Dark series were downgraded from Demon's visuals. I still think it's true, Demon's is still my favorite looking Souls so far, both in atmosphere and image fidelity (such as framrate).



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Wright on 27 July 2014

Enchanted Arms is pretty good.



Valerik on 27 July 2014
Namiirei said:
No love for 3d dot game heroes ? :(

I liked this game, very cool.


Yep, I mentioned 3D Dot Game Heroes one page earlier. :) It's a great game!

 

Edit: Though I ackowledge, as mentioned above, that they published it not create the game themselves.



S.T.A.G.E. on 27 July 2014
Wright said:

Enchanted Arms is pretty good.


That game is sitting on a 64 metacritic. LOL



Wright on 27 July 2014
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Wright said:

Enchanted Arms is pretty good.


That game is sitting on a 64 metacritic. LOL


And?



S.T.A.G.E. on 27 July 2014
Wright said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


That game is sitting on a 64 metacritic. LOL


And?

Sony helped From Software with their development because they saw flaws in their games. The head of Sony Japan even admitted it. I was saying before to someone else that if Sony helped Software develop Enchanted Arms it would've been at least an 80 metacritic, but 64? Just accept the hand out.