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cusman said:
SubiyaCryolite said:
Even if all those games were ready the system would have been destroyed by the competition. If anything releasing it a year earlier is one of the few smart things Nintendo did with the system.

They released a system before it was ready. It was slow, it used to crash a lot, it was really really slow, it was very unstable, and it took them over a year of patching to sort it all out.

Also, it had poor quality launch games compared to the games that released in 2013 and 2014

It still lacks many key features a console should have now... like easy/quck access to friend list, notifications, ability to invite/join friends, and party/voice chat


Now imagine that launching alongside the PS4 and XBox One?



I predict that the Wii U will sell a total of 18 million units in its lifetime. 

The NX will be a 900p machine

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Ka-pi96 said:

Have a look at COD/AC/GTA etc sales and marketing campaigns and the success other consoles have had with a huge focus on that type of game.

Please don't. I don't like the direction Nintendo went with the Wii U but going that way would be much worse.



I think the date has nothing to do with it - it is the console itself. It lacks the innovation to grab the market and the gaming crowd has changed from what it was 15 years ago which I think Nintendo has not appreciated.



I don't think the launch date is a major contributor to the mediocre sales of the WIi U. Alot of things such as lack of marketing, weaker hardware, lack of multiplats and strong 3rd support are the things that are just not helping. Though I will say that since Nintendo released the system a year before the competition, they really should havve had games like Super Mario 3D World and Mario Kart 8 ready, months before the competition to help push units. Nintendo didn't do much with their system with the 1 year head start they had.



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cusman said:
SubiyaCryolite said:
Even if all those games were ready the system would have been destroyed by the competition. If anything releasing it a year earlier is one of the few smart things Nintendo did with the system.

They released a system before it was ready. It was slow, it used to crash a lot, it was really really slow, it was very unstable, and it took them over a year of patching to sort it all out.

Also, it had poor quality launch games compared to the games that released in 2013 and 2014

It still lacks many key features a console should have now... like easy/quck access to friend list, notifications, ability to invite/join friends, and party/voice chat

The online features don't irk me too much but I remember the OS at first and ouch it was awful. My least favorite part was waiting for a great game to be released. Had to wait until Pikmin 3 to finally get something I actually wanted on the console.



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KLXVER said:
Ka-pi96 said:

Agreed. They have talent, no doubt about that. But they are so ignorant and refuse to change to what the market wants, instead trying to make the market want what they want it to want. It worked with the Wii but that was a fluke. If they were to embrace change and then maybe they could have a really great console.


and what the market want is...?


ps4. 



”The environment where PlayStation wins is best for this industry” (Jack Tretton, 2009)

FATALITY said:
KLXVER said:
Ka-pi96 said:

Agreed. They have talent, no doubt about that. But they are so ignorant and refuse to change to what the market wants, instead trying to make the market want what they want it to want. It worked with the Wii but that was a fluke. If they were to embrace change and then maybe they could have a really great console.


and what the market want is...?


ps4. 


Nintendo should start making PS4s...Good idea.



KLXVER said:
FATALITY said:
KLXVER said:
Ka-pi96 said:

Agreed. They have talent, no doubt about that. But they are so ignorant and refuse to change to what the market wants, instead trying to make the market want what they want it to want. It worked with the Wii but that was a fluke. If they were to embrace change and then maybe they could have a really great console.


and what the market want is...?


ps4. 


Nintendo should start making PS4s...Good idea.


they cant. they are so ignorant and refuse to change to what market wants



”The environment where PlayStation wins is best for this industry” (Jack Tretton, 2009)

FATALITY said:

they cant. they are so ignorant and refuse to change to what market wants


Fair enough.



Well, I think no. Launching first is one of the biggest advantages a console can have and helped Genesis and X360 to gain a lot of marketshare compared to its predecessors and really helped the NES to retain share.

The big issues with the Wii U are:
- Power. The core market comes from PS360. This guys won't expend a lot of money in a new console if they don't see improvements compared to what they have.

- Lack of innovation. The Wii was able to overcome the above problem because it changed the way people played, so it gave players a reason to upgrade from XB/PS2/GC. The Wii U has zero innovation. The tablet controller don't add anything really amazing. It allows cool things, but it doesn't change the game. Think about how smartphones allowed you to pull with your fingers the birds on Angry Birds or how you can use the rear touchpad on Vita to put your fingers inside the game on Tearaway. These are cool things, but they don't change the game like Wii did when it made you become the controller.
In reality, PS4 and X1 are more innovative because they allow you to share videos, screens, stream things live and are actually one of the first devices that make it so easy. That's a game changer because that's bringing the consoles on par with the internet of the 2010s where sharing and socializing is a key aspect.

- Lack of 3rd party games. This is simple, the biggest franchises are 3rd party and people want it.

So, from my point of view, the Wii U concept is wrong in its core. Fixing it would mean actually creating a complete different console.