Considering the fact that the PS4 is outselling the PS3 by a huge margin I'd say it should be painfully obvious conclusion. The Wii outsold the PS3 by less than 20 million units and I can not fathom how anybody could expect the PS4 to fail to outsell the PS3 by a greater margin. Sony would really need to buckle down and commit to failure for the PS4 to fail to outsell the Wii.

Quote of the month.

Well, these are different times, for one. And after the ps4 hot start, it has fizzled quite hard, aside from any excuses you or anybody wants to come up with, less than 100k per week is weak. I think it will do well, I just don't follow the 100 million mentality. This Gen will be shorter, no doubt in my mind. And sony doesn't need to commit to its failure, the public will decide that. I don't think selling less or equal to the ps3 a failure, you may, but I dont. I think it will be a great success, for this generation.

First off, learn to trim the tree or else you`ll be the one receiving a warning or ban :)

No, I believe that your whole response to my orginal post clearly falls into your option 3 category. 

I did say goodday but you continued to respond therefore of course I could not resist as I was annoyed and now amused.

So first you respond with: "Despite this meaningless dribble"

and then post the following four statements.....

"Clearly you proved my point as to why I would not waste my time engaging you in any formal discussion/debate.

Your contradicting statements alone truly portrayed your character, especially the fact that you ran to the mods to report me, which was rather amusing.

Regardless, it's my own fault for wasting my time even providing you a response and allowing myself to be annoyed.

So with that I say, good day."

I did not engage you in an actual formal debate, this whole back and forth is mere bickering, especially on your behalf.

As for these lies:

"First you claim you argued sematics, then you claimed you didn't argue at all, it seems these responses your providing are all over the place. I`m not understanding where this reasoning is coming from

Please refer to your posts as this statement was correct. I`ve posted your comments in quotations but by all means continue to ignore them.

" Refuses to provide evidence while simultaneously claiming evidence is easy to obtain. <- contradiction

That`s incorrect, I advised you earlier that there was no point in engaging you in any formal debate as you`ve proven quite clearly throughout this thread that it was pointless (examples provided are bolded below).

Silly you thinking you had a valid points to claim I contradicted myself...........

"I won't inquire any further, but only because subjecting you that amount of scruntiny would be unwarranted

 " Scrutiny, is not an argument, there is no merit to held by it"

"Those links you posted are opinions about scrutiny, judging the situations in which it is acceptable".

Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones!

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"This Gen will be shorter, no doubt in my mind."

This is based on what exactly?

Also, who cares if it is selling less 100k a week in the middle of July? That's not bad considering at all the competitions' price cut / major release while Sony does absolutly nothing to push the PS4. Don't compare the PS4's sales trejectory with the Wii's, that is completely assinine. Compare the PS4 to the PS3.

The PS3 had so much going against it and still sold 80 Million. Plus, it's still $250 new, which was the Wii launch price. I actually wouldn't be totally surprised if the PS3 crawled past it.

Anyway, PS4 does everything right. I don't see why it wouldn't outsell the Wii.

why does everyone look to the Wii as the real console to beat is the PS2, as long as the PS4 has support from Sony it'll carry on shifting in big numbers, these troll/flame bait threads are becoming a bore, it was bad enough 8 years ago but now it's just getting tiresome.

“Honestly, if you were any slower, you’d be going backward.” 

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Guys, keep things nice and calm please. Next bait/flaming comment or similar will be banned. Similarly the next needlessly long quote tree will be banned.

Now now, if you are going to insult me at least post it without hiding what your claiming!

I will not be rude unlike your statement, instead I will just post this factual meme.