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Pavolink said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Pavolink said:
Sony is not as intelligent as Nintendo to create such a big fad. Wii was a success that only Nintendo can recreate.


Sony didnt create the Eyetoy to be a fad even though thats as good as its purpose could've stretched. Marketing changes perception. Sony's intentions for the Eyetoy was for it to accompany every Playstation product, not for you to blow your load with it or force bundle it upon people. When Sony created their version of Wii Sports in Sports Champions, it actually took skill to play the game. This again is a problem with Sony. They don't dumb things down like Nintendo. 


No. They wanted to create a better game that outsell Wii Sports focusing on skills. And it failed as nobody asked for perfect games but for fun ones. In that sense, Wii Sports is superior as doesn't need you to move perfectly, but to just move similar or emulate with a "dumbed down" perception.

Of course you are wrong, again, if you believe Nintendo is the only company with easy games.

Fads are very hard to create, its obvious Nintendo didn't do it intentionally because they have never managed to recreate it.



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BeElite said:

For the year its at 58% of sales, 64% in Europe.  Such share with out a top 5 exclusive PS franchise out yet or a single price cut.  Is annahilation that far of really.

To early to market to them, but PS4 is the mass medias darling already.  

But for how long though.

Yes, the PS4 only has to sell 10 mill a year, less than half the Wii's peaks in order get to 100 mil.

But at the Same time, the Wii was only a fad for its life time, 5 years, which is an incredibly long time for a fad to go on.

PS4 having a lifetime of a decade and still being relevant in the media would be it basically defining the remainder of the 2010 gen and the beginning of the 2020 gen.



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DarkD said:
How the hell did the Wii die fast... It was doing those kinds of numbers for 4 years straight. It only started to die off like the PS4 is now in the last 2 years of its life.

Yea, PS4 is dying off...10 million in not even a year LOL



 

Ps2 never reached those numbers but ended at 160 + million Sony has shown that whether it is in 1st or last place it will support its console throughout its lifetime. Unlike Nintendo.



Arius Dion said:
chapset said:
Arius Dion said:
Many are ignoring trends. This gen will not sniff last gens totals. PS4 isn't even doing better than PS3 yet, imagine PS3 was the market leader last gen with its putrid start? There is no Wii this gen. The economy will not allow this gen to be greater than last.

whut?? wtf are you talking about the ps4 did 8.2 mill in 8 months while it took 14months for the ps3 to do that. check the numbers before posting dumb shit


PS4 is a poor market leader;. in the kingdom of the blind the one eyed man is king, it won't be long before PS4 starts tracking below PS3. Wii is untouchable. Bottomline. Watch your mouth kid.

That doesn't change the fact that you should check numbers on a sale site before posting bullshit, have a nice day mister.

Also you can hope all you want for the ps4 to fall of but it won't happen lol, keep on dreaming :D



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Don't think it can match that, Wii was a full-blown fad after all.

PS4 should have much stronger legs resulting in higher lifetime sales, though... Assuming the PS4 is allowed a 6 year lifespan before a successor like the Wii was, anyways. Which it may well not.



chapset said:
Arius Dion said:
chapset said:
Arius Dion said:
Many are ignoring trends. This gen will not sniff last gens totals. PS4 isn't even doing better than PS3 yet, imagine PS3 was the market leader last gen with its putrid start? There is no Wii this gen. The economy will not allow this gen to be greater than last.

whut?? wtf are you talking about the ps4 did 8.2 mill in 8 months while it took 14months for the ps3 to do that. check the numbers before posting dumb shit


PS4 is a poor market leader;. in the kingdom of the blind the one eyed man is king, it won't be long before PS4 starts tracking below PS3. Wii is untouchable. Bottomline. Watch your mouth kid.

That doesn't change the fact that you should check numbers on a sale site before posting bullshit, have a nice day mister.

Also you can hope all you want for the ps4 to fall of but it won't happen lol, keep on dreaming :D

I'm not hoping the PS4 fails, quite the contrary. Just seeing the writing on the wall. I don't think this gen will sniff last gens numbers. And if you think they will, well then you're the one posting bull shit pipe dreams : )



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Arius Dion said:

I don't think this gen will sniff last gens numbers. 

They won't. Is that because of the PS4 though?



Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
BeElite said:

For the year its at 58% of sales, 64% in Europe.  Such share with out a top 5 exclusive PS franchise out yet or a single price cut.  Is annahilation that far of really.

To early to market to them, but PS4 is the mass medias darling already.  

But for how long though.

Yes, the PS4 only has to sell 10 mill a year, less than half the Wii's peaks in order get to 100 mil.

But at the Same time, the Wii was only a fad for its life time, 5 years, which is an incredibly long time for a fad to go on.

PS4 having a lifetime of a decade and still being relevant in the media would be it basically defining the remainder of the 2010 gen and the beginning of the 2020 gen.


not long, it will increase soon enough.

Destiny will drive PS4 past 70% in europe.  and 60 ww.



biglittlesps said:
archbrix said:
NobleTeam360 said:
What did the Wii do in it's first year?

By the end of 2007 (roughly 13 months) the Wii had sold around 19.5m and that was with heavy supply constraints.



These sales are not completely for games from gamers, its from casuals who found the wii motion controls unique with the games Wii Sports etc., But PS4 sales are only from hardcore gamers and its about games and faith in Sony exclusives support in future.

To disregard "casual" consumers just because they're not "hardcore" gamers is folly.  One could argue that it is harder to sell a gaming device to a "casual" than a "hardcore" gamer.