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Richard_Feynman said:
Player2 said:

Just in case someone decides to question point #1:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=174711&page=1

That has nothing to do with point 1. How much do you think Dark Souls II would sell on Wii U? Who would buy it? Exactly. The statement in your link is absolutely justifiable and has nothing to do with 3rd parties being "biased against Nintendo". 

Get a grip on reality.

It has everything to do with point 1. It proves that Nintendo wouldn't get all multiplatform games, even if their system was equal to others. Just look at the Wii U:

1) Electronic Arts never intended to put Dead Space 3 on it.
2) Square-Enix never intended to put Tomb Raider on it.
3) Take Two never intended to put Bioshock Infinite on it.
4) Konami never intended to put Castlevania: Lords of Shadow 2 on it.

That's already four publishers off the top of my head that denied ports before the Wii U went on sale, meaning that Wii U sales had zero influence on those decisions.



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mii-gamer said:
Ucell said:
Nintendo doesn't make the best games, not even close. Its in this order:

Sony > Rockstar > Ubisoft > Microsoft > EA > 2K Games > Nintendo > Activision Blizzard > Konami > Square Enix > Namco Bandai > Capcom

Of course I'm generalising here because individual games do vary but overall this is what I think.

As for lack of third-parties that wouldn't help any console. If X1 didn't have third-parties it would have sold much less than it has already.


Sony makes the best games for me. Try denying that lol. AND THAT GUY IS FUCKING UGLY.

Nintendo fans like you really get on my nerves.



Ucell said:
mii-gamer said:


Sony makes the best games for me. Try denying that lol. AND THAT GUY IS FUCKING UGLY.

Nintendo fans like you really get on my nerves.

Well that's of course in your opinion but we have to look at the sales data to objectively define the best games. And those are the ones that sell the most. In that case it would be Nintendo games. Don't worry though Sony games would enter in the top 10... maybe.



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4). They are seemingly incompetent at working cooperatively with western studios. People say they shouldn't do it but the real issue is that they CAN'T do it. If they COULD, the same people blaming third-parties now would be all for it. It's not about sucking up, it's about forging business partnerships that create a mutually beneficial environment. You know, like almost every other company in every other industry does? Yeah, like that.

Seriously, how many people are angry about third party Japanese games? How many people are yelling that Nintendo should stop "sucking up" and kick Youkai Watch or Bravely Default to the curb? Hmm, no? Those seem to be okay? My hypocrisy sense is tingling.

This whole batch of third party hate reminds me of when my cousin was a kid. He was really self-centered, even for a child. All his toys were awesome but if you had something he didn't have, he'd pout and call it "stupid". When he'd come over, that's all I heard. I remember getting in trouble for hitting him with a cardboard box because he was so annoying.

The whole crux of the matter is that NoA fails at establishing competent developer relationships. Stop rationalizing that.



Anfebious said:
Ucell said:
mii-gamer said:


Sony makes the best games for me. Try denying that lol. AND THAT GUY IS FUCKING UGLY.

Nintendo fans like you really get on my nerves.

Well that's of course in your opinion but we have to look at the sales data to objectively define the best games. And those are the ones that sell the most. In that case it would be Nintendo games. Don't worry though Sony games would enter in the top 10... maybe.

Nah Rockstar's games would take up no 1, unless you count Wii Sports. That changes everything.

And Sony would come in the top 10 if you ignore their niche releases.



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pokoko said:
4). They are seemingly incompetent at working cooperatively with western studios. People say they shouldn't do it but the real issue is that they CAN'T do it. If they COULD, the same people blaming third-parties now would be all for it. It's not about sucking up, it's about forging business partnerships that create a mutually beneficial environment. You know, like almost every other company in every other industry does? Yeah, like that.

Seriously, how many people are angry about third party Japanese games? How many people are yelling that Nintendo should stop "sucking up" and kick Youkai Watch or Bravely Default to the curb? Hmm, no? Those seem to be okay? My hypocrisy sense is tingling.

This whole batch of third party hate reminds me of when my cousin was a kid. He was really self-centered, even for a child. All his toys were awesome but if you had something he didn't have, he'd pout and call it "stupid". When he'd come over, that's all I heard. I remember getting in trouble for hitting him with a cardboard box because he was so annoying.

The whole crux of the matter is that NoA fails at establishing competent developer relationships. Stop rationalizing that.

Youkai Watch and Bravely Default are exclusive games.



Legend11 correctly predicted that GTA IV (360+PS3) would outsell SSBB. I was wrong.

A Biased Review Reloaded / Open Your Eyes / Switch Shipments

Anfebious said:

Well that's of course in your opinion but we have to look at the sales data to objectively define the best games. And those are the ones that sell the most. In that case it would be Nintendo games. Don't worry though Sony games would enter in the top 10... maybe.

Whoa, I'm guessing you're a HUGE fan of Activision and Rockstar, then.

People really, really need to stop with the sales equals "best" line of thought, especially on a forum where CoD and GTA get so much hate.



Ucell said:
Anfebious said:

Well that's of course in your opinion but we have to look at the sales data to objectively define the best games. And those are the ones that sell the most. In that case it would be Nintendo games. Don't worry though Sony games would enter in the top 10... maybe.

Nah Rockstar's games would take up no 1, unless you count Wii Sports. That changes everything.

And Sony would come in the top 10 if you ignore their niche releases.

We count every game in these kind of objective analysis, Wii Sports, Mario Kart Wii, Super Mario Bross and a bunch of others are included but you seem to get the idea. Nintendo is the best by far.



"I've Underestimated the Horse Power from Mario Kart 8, I'll Never Doubt the WiiU's Engine Again"

RolStoppable said:

Youkai Watch and Bravely Default are exclusive games.

Made by third party companies.



Ucell said:
mii-gamer said:


Sony makes the best games for me. Try denying that lol. AND THAT GUY IS FUCKING UGLY.

Nintendo fans like you really get on my nerves.

Am I not allowed to laugh and challenge your statement?

"Nintendo doesn't even make the best games, not even close"

Sales, critical receptions and cultural influences says otherwise