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I would quote stage, but the fact of the matter is that Nintendo need 3rd party for not a thing.



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I don't think nintendo has to suck up to third parties, but a bit more transparency could well go a long way.



For those talking about Nintendo games :

a) my only nintendo console except Wii U , was the original NES.

b) I don't really like Platform Games

But i must say i found amazing Super Mario Bros U & 3D World.

The Sad Truth is that Wii U is perfect combo for second console.

Not all people want to spent so much money on videogames.



BeElite said:
Well if there not going to then maybe your next thread should be why Nintendo should not make hardware and be 3rd party them selves.

If no 3rd party games are a for gone conclusion then there is no point to a platform that missing majority of games in the market each year. Might as well take the few great game they got and spread them out on an ocean of platforms of their choosing.

If they don't directly compete with MS and Sony then whats the point exactly ? struggling by on 15/20 million console sales a gen ?


The answer to your question is that in the end it doesn't matter how many units of a console you sell its the amount of money you makeby the end of the generation. Nintendo made a great profit off the the Gamecube only selling 22 million, a lot more than Microsoft made off the Xbox and even more then Sony did with PS2.



 

1. If third parties were truly biased against Nintendo then couldn't the same be said for how third parties treated SEGA in the past ? Honest to god the biggest motivation in a business is to make profit and the WII U came up short with third parties so I'm not seeing the malicious intent or hard feelings against Nintendo. Ask yourself this question rol ... Why would a third party developer want to hurt their bottom line ? They all know that the only sensible option is to go multi platform unless a port actually turns out to be hurting their margins. Your conjecture that third parties are out to actively sabotage Nintendo sounds like some unfounded conspiracy theory seeing as how third parties were still sensible enough to support the 3DS.

2. If Nintendo games were always the best games then how come they've had failed consoles before ? Whether you like it or not Nintendo doesn't always develop the best games and they have relied on third party developers before like Rare for the N64 and the developers of Pokemon for Nintendo's Handhelds. There are publishers other than Nintendo like EA or Activision Blizzard who would also be contenders for best game publishers. 

3. Just because Playstation has an advantage in Europe and especially Japan doesn't mean that the Xbox brand didn't have a decent advantage in america which is the most relevant market out of the three so those adanvtanges cancel each other out for the most part. I do believe that the Xbox One would have had the chance if Microsoft didn't screw up but that's not related at all as to why Nintendo shouldn't support third parties. Consumers in general don't favour one corporation's brand over another but rather they buy what they think is the best products.

Don't get me wrong I agree that Nintendo shouldn't be the ones sticking up for third parties but your points are being overly critical about them for the most part.



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padib said:
NintendoPie said:
And that, children, is why the Wii U is trash.

This must be the absolute most mislead post I've read on vgchartz. I want to make sure I sting. (unless you're being humorous of course) 

The U is not a console that sucks up to 3rd parties. If it were, Nintendo would not need a screen in their controller or a stylus would they?

You have been too strongly indoctrinated by Rol, honestly.

The U is struggling for reasons much greater than "It has dual analog sticks", I am terribly sorry, and anyone who convinced you of that should be flogged. (That's Rol)

Rashness aside, I'd like to point you to a more intelligent perspective, that the U is Nintendo's attempt to reconsile their DS success along with allowing 3rd partys to have the standard buttons available from the get-go. The buttons are optional, but are not in any way a reason for the U's failure, since a padlet would have been necessary for the DS-type strategy anyway. It was basically them hitting two birds with one stone.

Sure, the padlet hikes the price which is a huge deterrent, but the greatest deterrent for the U is the lack of games. However, even so, the U does have more attractive games than the X1 and PS4 do so far, so I'd be slow to call it trash.

Also, NSMBU is one reason a person could contemplate calling it trash, because the game has been released once too often and reaks of lack of originality.

It is interesting how you start your long paragraph of calling out his use of hyperbolic word like "trash" to describe Wii U. Then at the end you procede to make your own hyperbolic statement based on your own opinion of a game you didn't like. I mean i understand you have some deep seeded problem with NSMBU as you made a thread demeaning it by comparing it to sales of Mario Kart 8. For what little my words are worth, the game is not trash and it is well made platformer. The vgchartz polls are never a reliable source but here you can see that our community quite likes that "trash" game. It probably was the only thing convincing people to pick up a Wii U and preventing a much early death. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=175365

Carry on with it and Happy Canada Day. 

OT: I agree. I buy Nintendo consoles for Nintendo and other exclusive games. It doesn't make sense to make the main console strategy to cater to small subset of people who want to play 3rd party multiplatform games and don't have another console/pc to play them on. Build on ones strengths than weakness, pretty much. 



Third Parties just never really sell well on Nintendo consoles, There are special situations, but for the most part it is Nintendo games that sell on Nintendo consoles



Spaghetti said:
Nintendo games that sell on Nintendo consoles

I can confirm with 100% certainty that Nintendo games don't sell on none Nintendo consoles.



Spaghetti said:
Third Parties just never really sell well on Nintendo consoles, There are special situations, but for the most part it is Nintendo games that sell on Nintendo consoles


Thats not true. When Nintendo was ruling over third parties they sold as they normally do except without all of the Nintendo commercialisation that Sony and Microsoft put behind them for specific games. Before Sony and Microsoft third parties didnt like Nintendos rule over them and luckily found a way out once they found competition that could get a marketshare. Nintendo doesn't play ball with people, you play by their rules hence why Nintendo gamers have had to become used to not playing third party on their consoles. It is them who refuse to play with third parties. It is third parties who had to suck up to them. People need to look up Nintendo's history. Seriously. Nintendo inadvertantly got their fans used to not playing third party games because they couldnt bury the hatchet and accept that third parties have needs as well as themselves. Microsoft and Sony tailor made their consoles so they could optimize first party as well as third party. Nintendo when creating the Wii U only looked out for number one and forgot the power requirements for next gen. Thats why they lost out. They only think about themselves. Not saying the Wii U cant be a great console because its looking like it will be, but it could've been great and enjoyed a greater marketshare if they would just let third parties exist in tandem with them. Their gamers suffer for it and have to buy outsider consoles for that reason. Twenty years...count em.