You lost me in the first sentence.  The Wii U has some great exclusives and the gamepad adds a lot of value, regardless of its sales. 

Anyway, they shouldn't worry about third parties this generation.  They aren't happening, and they should focus on exclusives like Bayonetta instead as they are doing.  But next generation, they do need to suck up to third parties, because they can't do it alone.  Even the Wii had bunch of third party support compared to the Wii U, granted there was a lot of shovelware.

Size and scope isnt everything though. Most of Skyrim is empty. Dont get me wrong, its a good game and I love playing it, but I prefer content before size. I really hope Nintendo returns to Zeldas roots in the next instalment. And besides, Nintendo always focus more on gameplay than anything else.

It was the method by which you disagreed that people took issue with, seemingly defining "best" as "capable of making a WRPG on the scale of Skyrim, but better" and arguing that point for pages on end, rather than clarifying terms from the outset.

Roots as in 3/4 top down view Zelda?

With 3D Zelda I would like it to be more vast. Yes, Skyrim has plenty of areas that seem empty, but that is how the world is. Not every area is populated.

I enjoy the vistas and would love to see what Nintendo could do I they tried.

I was drinking. I seem to have been more about trying to keep up with replies and not fully thinking when trying to make a point. I Only wanted to state that other devs can do things Nintendo can't. So I wouldn't consider them the best, only one of the best, which isn't a knock on them in any way.

I am also on my iPhone and can't cut quote trees. Sorry.

Yes, going back to the roots as in the original LoZ. Id argue thats the first open world game there was. 

I would also love to see them try a big and vast world, like Skyrim. But Im sure theyd fill it up with mlre things to do in it. Or rather I hope they would. But I have to remark your comment that Skyrim is empty because thats how the world is; not populated everywhere. This is a game. You can add whatever you want! Theyve added dragons for crying out loud. Games arent meant to be realkstic, and the game doesnt need to be so emty therefore. Some times I find Skyrim a little too vast and empty. Just like Twilight Princess

You are wrong saying the Xbox one is tanking.  ITS DOING AMAZING.

If you check the history of the Xbox 360.... the X1 is SUPER OUTPACING IT ALREADY.  And the 360 sold about 100 Million.  So maybe the X1 will hit 150 Million by the end of its 10 year cycle.  Since the start is already better.

Give or take 18 million.

Funny thing is that every person I know that owns a Nintendo system either also owns Demon Souls or Dark souls or both like me :)

Dark Souls is completely different from the generic third party game Nintendo players hate. And therefore it is successful with Nintendo owners.

The problem is that also everyone I know that owns a Nintendo system is a PC gamer because why buy inferior games when the PC version is better and cheaper? Thats also why I bought Demon Souls for PS3 (simply no other choice) and Dark Souls for PC (was just 10€ within first 6 months!)

All of the Nintendo people I know have a Nintendo system for Nintendo games and system exclusives.
If they have a PS3 they also just buy exclusives (99% just buy jrpgs)  If they have a 360 they also just buy exclusives (first 2 years also had alot of jrpgs this and DeadOrAlive 4 were the reasons I bought a 360) everything else is bought on PC.

I have WiiU PS3 and 360 and 95% of every consoles library is system exclusive. I just have random third party games that I bought when I was able to get them used for like 3€ or so.
I also have 500 games on steam and and most of it is multiplatform games (with some PC exclusives) 
Tomb Raider, Dark Souls, Sleeping Dogs, Borderlands 1+2, Hitman, Witcher2, Dishonored, Farcry3, Bioshock Trilogy, Mirrors Edge, Risen1+2, Skyrim, BatmanTrilogy, Assassisn Creed1-4, MaxPayne3, DeusEx, Darksiders1+2  etc etc etc.


I do have Darksiders 1, Enslaved, Metal Gear Rising  and several other PC games on console but just because they were not initially released on PC (also bought GTA5 for PS3) but I always get angry when a console exclusive comes to PC because I feel like I wasted money on the console version.
(Gta5 is a different story tho because I bought it new for 15 bucks and will get at least 15 bucks for selling it when the PC version comes out and I will be more than happy to get rid of that 25fps mess.)

Eh, i'm not the mod you have to worry about for quote trees