@bold. You misunderstood him. He said that adult games like Tamodachi are also marketed to children. He was supporting his point that Nintendo games are alienating non-children.

His argument that the U tablet is aweful is complementary to the batteries issue, it's compounded actually, no contradiction there. Every reaction in the thread was based on overly sensitive predispositions, and that's not right. Your 2nd paragraph is therefore invalid.

I'm a Nintendo fan, and I disagree with most of his points, but I'm not going to let a hoard of Nintendo fans be rude to a polite user. Sorry.

Go out and ask your friends why they do not plan to ever buy the Wii-U. You will get exactly the above results.

How can you guess what anyone I know might say, if I asked them why they're not planning to buy a Wii U? For the record, most of my friends are not interested in gaming consoles, period, and those that have opted for the competition cite positive reasons for PS4 or X1, rather than negative reasons for Wii U. I do have friends who have a Wii U.

http://www.macleans.ca/economy/business/does-wii-have-a-problem/

"Ironically, it’s in the midst of this jumble of technology that the Wii U, as muddled as it initially seems, actually makes the most sense."

http://www.tuaw.com/2014/05/14/nintendos-strange-awkward-shuffle-towards-ios/

"The groundwork is now set for Nintendo do something good on iOS. Iwata has said they are going to do it"

http://n4g.com/news/1463655/wii-u-is-a-clumsy-awkward-device-says-molyneux

"Peter Molynuex's latest project, Godus, could come to PS Vita and the Steam Box, but is less likely to make its way to PS4, Xbox One and Wii U." (Note, while the article describes the Wii U as 'clumsy', the reasons for not bringing Godus to PS4 and Xbox One is even more dire - because touch controls are central to Godus.)

http://www.overclock.net/t/1461381/can-you-buy-the-wii-u-and-the-wii-u-gamepad-separately

This is a simple question on a forum asking whether the Game Pad can be sold separately. It can't.

However, as you can often read in self reports, most people that bought the Wii-U end up liking the tablet in eventually. But the fear that it could feel awkward and would not be fun to use is what potential customers scares away from the system.

If you spend a heavy amount of money on something you want to feel fully positive about it. If thinking about using the heavy tablet makes you feel negative, you will not buy it. And as everyone can see in the current sales data, people do not buy the Wii-U because they cannot imagine it could be fun to use the tablet controller.

Clearly, you are a walking, talking example of the result of Nintendo's failed marketing. As you have admitted yourself, those who have bought the Wii U end up liking the tablet. Nintendo seems to have relied on word of mouth this time around - an arrogant move in my opinion, but I can sort of understand it in a way, given the runnaway success of the Wii. Now they're hurting because of it, Iwata said three months ago that they're having to do something about the marketing side.

The current Wii-U owners are a very small and unimportant minority, they will like everything Nintendo does no matter how good or bad it is. If you want to be successful you need to get feedback from potential new customers instead. And this feedback will be devastating.

I agree with you that the feedback from the general masses who are ignorant of the Wii U will be devastating. So why do you post as though you are a part of the ignorant masses? You are on this site, among a community that is largely more informed than most. You are among people who are passionate enough about gaming and gaming consoles to do the research and follow the news. There are a fair number here who intend to purchase the Wii U in the future, based on their own research. They are therefore clearly not fazed by the perceived 'heavy' and 'inconvenient' tablet.

If you are a Nintendo fan, instead of fuelling the negativity through your own ignorance, do the research and get yourself an informed opinion, and I mean proper research, not pointing to ad-hoc links that fail to support your argument.

:) It didn't. I meant a hoard of  Nintendo fans and users who may or may not be Nintendo fans (like you). :P I'm aware you're a PC gamer mostly.

Your didn't come off as ranty, it was just to me a post that added to the Nintendo pileup and was the most sensible answer so I chose to answer to you and not burningmylight.

Nothing you just said argues against my original point. The games that released between NES-N64 are some of the most innovative, industry changing pieces of software and art ever released. Artistically, Yamauchi's Nintendo was superior in everyway. So much so, that Iwata's Nintendo can do nothing but feed off it. 

What would the new Nintendo games be if they didn't have the same iconic soundtracks of the 80's and 90's? What would Nintendo of today look like if they couldn't use the franchises CREATED during the Yamauchi era? What if Iwata's Nintendo had to create their own legacy from the ground up in a hostile envoriment like we have today in the way Yamauchi had to when the indstury crashed? 

Yamauchi's era was about innovation and creating experiences that literally changed the entire industry permanently. The Nintendo of the 80's and 90's was about forward thinking and vision. It was about taking huge risks. It was about spending large amounts of money on those risks. It was about foresight and attitude. 

Iwata doesn't seem to want any part of that. He seems more than happy with the status quo and treading water. 

Excellent points, Prayformojo has never been very good at arguing tho, he once told me Wii was casual but NES wasnt and used games like Duck Hunt to prove his point.

Yamauchi had to create videogames in a "hostile" environment? You mean an enviroment where every other major competitor went out of business and they were free for 1-2 years to develop a system?

 You know that Yamauchi's "guts" is what caused Sony to enter the market, shattering Nintendo's dominance that was only recaptured when Iwata came to the helm? You know that Yamauchi's "vision" had the N64 still using expensive cartridges when the entire industry went to discs? Or Yamauchi's vision that straddled the GCN with tiny Mini-DVDs instead of the better regular DVDs?