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gergroy on 22 June 2014
BillyBong said:
gergroy said:
They made the mistake of not wanting to risk more money on the game without owning the ip. Cant really blame them, they would be taking all the risk for an ip that could very well go to another publisher in the future.

In retrospect, they should have put up the money needed to complete development. I dont think they are kicking themselves too hard though. Microsoft essentially took all the risk in the deal and EA is getting a big chunk of the profit. Now that the ip is established, they can go all on in the sequels and really push for some serious profit without having to worry too much about risk.

Regardless though, the exclusivity deal was signed right before the new consoles launched.  Dvelopment was already in its final stages.  Dunno if EA really felt the IP was that big a risk at the time, given how much hype was already building up for the game.. but it'd be interesting to know in the future how successful the sequels will fare.  Just personally, I feel even if the sequel ended up on the PS4, it'd be a tough buy  for me because I missed out on the 1st title and will be oblivious to the story line, especially if Respawn takes the criticism of the lacking single player campaign and expand upon it for the sequels.  Also, depending on what will be available at the time, I might skip it to get something else, seeing that I missed out on the 1st title... know what I'm saying?   just food for thought.


Its an online only multiplayer game...  There is no single player campaign...Just what kind of story do you think you are missing??  



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BillyBong on 22 June 2014
gergroy said:
BillyBong said:
gergroy said:
They made the mistake of not wanting to risk more money on the game without owning the ip. Cant really blame them, they would be taking all the risk for an ip that could very well go to another publisher in the future.

In retrospect, they should have put up the money needed to complete development. I dont think they are kicking themselves too hard though. Microsoft essentially took all the risk in the deal and EA is getting a big chunk of the profit. Now that the ip is established, they can go all on in the sequels and really push for some serious profit without having to worry too much about risk.

Regardless though, the exclusivity deal was signed right before the new consoles launched.  Dvelopment was already in its final stages.  Dunno if EA really felt the IP was that big a risk at the time, given how much hype was already building up for the game.. but it'd be interesting to know in the future how successful the sequels will fare.  Just personally, I feel even if the sequel ended up on the PS4, it'd be a tough buy  for me because I missed out on the 1st title and will be oblivious to the story line, especially if Respawn takes the criticism of the lacking single player campaign and expand upon it for the sequels.  Also, depending on what will be available at the time, I might skip it to get something else, seeing that I missed out on the 1st title... know what I'm saying?   just food for thought.


Its an online only multiplayer game...  There is no single player campaign...Just what kind of story do you think you are missing??  

Even so.. Then what's the point of the campaign inclusion, regardless if the story is minimal and only a reason to unlock titans?  There still is a story, yes?



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Machiavellian on 22 June 2014

The problem I see is that this is not something gamers should even worry about. The only thing as a gamer that I care about is that I get a chance to play games I consider worth my money not which platform a company decided to put it on. The reason I say this is because games are a very risky business. Developers and publishers can eat to much risk and find themselves up for sale. As a business, things like platform exclusives, content and other stuff that we see are ways to mitigate risk, Yes in hindsight I am sure EA would have put the game on the PS system. The thing is, we do not know when the original deal was setup. Titanfall at that time definitely wasn't in a state that EA probably could have risked going full hog.

The game was made for MS platform because MS stepped up and made the investment. Sony evidently had their investments in other areas which is fine and good. Who knows how long the deal was in the original deal between EA, MS and Respawn but it probably was for the best for MS and EA to go the exclusive for this game since its a MP only game. People will just move to Titanfall 2 when it comes out instead especially if Respawn can provide a much better game.



Hyperlynx on 22 June 2014

In other news, EA mishandles everything.



Smear-Gel on 22 June 2014

Huh.

Soon we will live in a world where TF2 is said and the first thing that comes to mind is Titanfall 2 rather than Team Fortress 2.

Yeah, maybe EA screwed up, but that's easier to see after it happens. Not as easy to predict what would happen before.



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Machiavellian on 22 June 2014
BillyBong said:
gergroy said:
BillyBong said:
gergroy said:
They made the mistake of not wanting to risk more money on the game without owning the ip. Cant really blame them, they would be taking all the risk for an ip that could very well go to another publisher in the future.

In retrospect, they should have put up the money needed to complete development. I dont think they are kicking themselves too hard though. Microsoft essentially took all the risk in the deal and EA is getting a big chunk of the profit. Now that the ip is established, they can go all on in the sequels and really push for some serious profit without having to worry too much about risk.

Regardless though, the exclusivity deal was signed right before the new consoles launched.  Dvelopment was already in its final stages.  Dunno if EA really felt the IP was that big a risk at the time, given how much hype was already building up for the game.. but it'd be interesting to know in the future how successful the sequels will fare.  Just personally, I feel even if the sequel ended up on the PS4, it'd be a tough buy  for me because I missed out on the 1st title and will be oblivious to the story line, especially if Respawn takes the criticism of the lacking single player campaign and expand upon it for the sequels.  Also, depending on what will be available at the time, I might skip it to get something else, seeing that I missed out on the 1st title... know what I'm saying?   just food for thought.


Its an online only multiplayer game...  There is no single player campaign...Just what kind of story do you think you are missing??  

Even so.. Then what's the point of the campaign inclusion, regardless if the story is minimal and only a reason to unlock titans?  There still is a story, yes?

The point of the campaign inclusion was so that Respawn could say they had some type of singleplayer in the game.  In reality it was not well fleshed out.  Its a paper thin story thats there but the game is a MP only game.  Maybe in the 2nd game, Respawn will not have enough time to flesh out a true singleplayer.  In the end, the 2nd game will need to stand on its own which isnt going to be to tough since the first game doesnt really have a SP to tie it down.



ktay95 on 22 June 2014
Smear-Gel said:
Huh.

Soon we will live in a world where TF2 is said and the first thing that comes to mind is Titanfall 2 rather than Team Fortress 2.

Yeah, maybe EA screwed up, but that's easier to see after it happens. Not as easy to predict what would happen before.

Haha yeah it took me awhile to realise TF2 here means Titanfall 2 and not Team Fortress 2... I don't like it.



BillyBong on 22 June 2014
Machiavellian said:
The problem I see is that this is not something gamers should even worry about. The only thing as a gamer that I care about is that I get a chance to play games I consider worth my money not which platform a company decided to put it on. The reason I say this is because games are a very risky business. Developers and publishers can eat to much risk and find themselves up for sale. As a business, things like platform exclusives, content and other stuff that we see are ways to mitigate risk, Yes in hindsight I am sure EA would have put the game on the PS system. The thing is, we do not know when the original deal was setup. Titanfall at that time definitely wasn't in a state that EA probably could have risked going full hog.

The game was made for MS platform because MS stepped up and made the investment. Sony evidently had their investments in other areas which is fine and good. Who knows how long the deal was in the original deal between EA, MS and Respawn but it probably was for the best for MS and EA to go the exclusive for this game since its a MP only game. People will just move to Titanfall 2 when it comes out instead especially if Respawn can provide a much better game.

I understand  your points for the most part, but what will convince the PlayStation community to jump on the sequel after bring shunned from the first?  And I don't understand how a MP only game was best to go exclusive.  I highly doubt it had anything to do with the azure cloud infrastructure seeing how a sequel on the ps4 won't be utilizing azure.



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gergroy on 22 June 2014
BillyBong said:
gergroy said:
BillyBong said:

Regardless though, the exclusivity deal was signed right before the new consoles launched.  Dvelopment was already in its final stages.  Dunno if EA really felt the IP was that big a risk at the time, given how much hype was already building up for the game.. but it'd be interesting to know in the future how successful the sequels will fare.  Just personally, I feel even if the sequel ended up on the PS4, it'd be a tough buy  for me because I missed out on the 1st title and will be oblivious to the story line, especially if Respawn takes the criticism of the lacking single player campaign and expand upon it for the sequels.  Also, depending on what will be available at the time, I might skip it to get something else, seeing that I missed out on the 1st title... know what I'm saying?   just food for thought.


Its an online only multiplayer game...  There is no single player campaign...Just what kind of story do you think you are missing??  

Even so.. Then what's the point of the campaign inclusion, regardless if the story is minimal and only a reason to unlock titans?  There still is a story, yes?


Havent played it, so I cant say for sure.  But from what I understand the "campaign" is just short intro's to multiplayer matches.  Its not some involved storyline or anything.  It is pretty obvious that you arent going to be missing any story elements if you skip the first game, because there really isnt any.  

So apparently your primary complaint won't be an issue...



Machiavellian on 22 June 2014

Personally I do not see EA screwing up. When its not your money its easy to say you would do this or that. Its easy to say how you would have done things after something was released. Respawn is not EA property they are only the publisher and even then Respawn signed the EA partners contract. EA doesn't even have the rights to the Titanfall IP so its easy to see why EA wasn't going to put that much capital at risk.

If Respawn can continue to make hits then I am sure EA and Respawn relationship will be great and each one will make a ton of money.