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XBO Price Drop Sales?

50,000 184 29.21%
 
60,000 69 10.95%
 
70,000 77 12.22%
 
80,000 86 13.65%
 
90,000 48 7.62%
 
100,000+ 164 26.03%
 
Total:628

I guess you could be correct. Especially in mainland EU where Kinect is very underutilized, and it certainly is not worth the premium.
But summer is not a period when people buy consoles and play games in EU, so I doubt that the traffic will increase.
But it will certainly help in the fall.
I'm afraid that I have no definite numbers to write down, though, all these VGC numbers seem funky to me.



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jlmurph2 said:
BMaker11 said:
jlmurph2 said:

Same thing happened when XB1 won December NPD too.

When the PS4 was extremely supply constrained? And was only outsold buring 40k during Christmas? Had Sony been able to keep up with demand, it would have demolished the XBone in December, like it did every following month when they were able to do better at meeting demand. 

Lol so what are you saying? Is being available in stores good or bad? Because I'm seeing contradicting points from you.

XB1 did so good in December because it was readily available.

XB1 must be doing bad now that the $399 SKU is readily available.

Is the Wii U selling gangbusters because its not available? Or is not being available keeping them from doing that?

I'm just saying it barely outsold a supply constrained PS4, so that shouldn't really be a talking point.  It certainly didn't do bad in December, but that just comes with the territory of it being Christmas. Even WiiU sold a half million, almost as much as the 360's first Christmas with no current gen competition, and that's the "doomed" console. But there's a difference between "readily available" and "stacks of the product". Let's just say that if the PS4 had those amounts of stockpiles available, its December sales would have been through the roof.

But now we're at a time where there isn't a holiday rush, so retailers aren't ordering a bunch of product to be prepared for expected demand. Meaning, at least according to Arkaign, 10 days later, what the stores ordered hasn't sold. I could be wrong about my assumption about ordering a bunch to meet expected demand, and a bunch sold and the guy saw the remaining products. But it's June, so I doubt Walmart, Gamestop, Target, etc. is ordering a crap ton of consoles, since these are the dead months for video games. 

When you say the XBone did "so good" in December, it's only "good" because it won. But it only won because its competition wasn't able to produce enough product in that region. In that regard, I see no contradicting points. There should be an asteriks next to "XB1 did so good in December because it was readily available" since PS4 wasn't. It didn't do "so good" by virtue of it being so available. It did "so good" because it sold more than its direct competitor, which wasn't as available to be sold. If I had 10 Zunes and 5 iPods, then sold out of my iPods and sold 7 Zunes, it looks like Zune did better, right? But if I had 10 iPods, I would have sold out of iPods. Compare it to now, though, where inventory levels are about equal. You see less PS4s in stores than XBones and we can agree, right now, that XBone sales are bad. So when you see so much stock of Xbones, that should tell you something.

Look, I'm not denying that there won't be a boost in sales. But just looking at recent history, when you see a bunch of XBones everywhere, the result is XB1 < PS4 WW, when all things are otherwise equal. Sorry for small novel



BMaker says it pretty well there.

Hell, PS4 was supply constrained until at least March in many parts of the US market, and later still in European markets. And still it found dramatically larger demand.

Every product has a core fanbase who will pay whatever they have to in order to jump on a product, and once that's exhausted you have to find a way to hit the broader appeal. The gigantic gap between ps4 and xb1 has been that jump. Xb1 had an outstanding Nov/Dec, but the demand was extremely front loaded.

It remains to be seen if the new SKU will jump start the xb1, but I'm not convinced, all charts and what I've seen firsthand tells me it's almost nothing beyond a couple of days. For 2014 the xb1 has lost more than three to one globally and down 600k+ in the US. That's not going to change unless a Titanic shift occurs.



ExplodingBlock said:
Eddie_Raja said:
ExplodingBlock said:

How much do you think the price will effect the Xbox One's sales? 100$ surely is a big price drop but that just puts it on par with PS4. Plus, XBO really needs it after last week sales, which were terrible for it.


It isn't a price drop.  You just no longer HAVE to buy Kinect.  I really don't expect much of a sales bump...


Still, it isn't like anyone wanted one anyway

how do you then explain that both Xbox one with kinect, and Xbox+kinect+Tf is above PS4 on amazon.

PS: I am a sony fan. I'm not trying to defend the Xbox, i'm simply looking at this from an objective standpoint and letting you know my observations. It looks like Xbox+Kinect sales skyrocketed now that it is being discountinued, similar to PSP in Japan.



70k or above



Bets:

(Won)Bet with TechoHobbit: He(Techno) says 10 million by January 1,2014 I say 9 million by then. Winner gets 2 weeks of sig control.

(Lost)Bet with kinisking: I say Ps4 will win April NPD while he says Xbox One will win it; winner gets 1 week of avatar control.

Raichu's First Series:

First RPG?

First Fighter?

First Racer?

First Shooter?

First MMO?

First Horror?

Official Ni No Kuni Fanboy:

Familiars Captured:37

Game Beaten: 2 times almost

Times I got teary during some scenes: 3

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id say 90k simply because a lot of people knew for over a month and held off.



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

ehh US is going to carry it most likely europe wont help it and of course japan will make them lose millions for over stock or something
so ill just say 100k because US has the most fans and theyll buy it so
70k NA 15k Europe 5k ww



Bets:

(Won)Bet with TechoHobbit: He(Techno) says 10 million by January 1,2014 I say 9 million by then. Winner gets 2 weeks of sig control.

(Lost)Bet with kinisking: I say Ps4 will win April NPD while he says Xbox One will win it; winner gets 1 week of avatar control.

Raichu's First Series:

First RPG?

First Fighter?

First Racer?

First Shooter?

First MMO?

First Horror?

Official Ni No Kuni Fanboy:

Familiars Captured:37

Game Beaten: 2 times almost

Times I got teary during some scenes: 3

Yeah at this point Europe is probably going to start scaling back orders and shelf space for XB1. Ps3 outsells it there, and ps4 blows it away 6 to 1 regularly (and worse).



jlmurph2 said:
Arkaign said:
Currently :

5th : PS4 Bare
6th : Destiny for PS4
18th : PS4 Destiny Bundle
36th : XB1 TF Bundle
39th : XB1 Bare

Any guesses as to how many times Amazon has been wrong this year in predicting the NPD winner?


Why are you putting up Destiny and that bundle when they aren't even available yet? All you're showing me is that 2 XB1 SKU's are actually moving up the charts right now. They were lower earlier.

so was ps4 though,.. it was in the 9th position now 6th.  a lot of the E3 announcement games (like halo 5 for instance: 7th --> 19th) are moving down the charts.



88,000.