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jlmurph2 said:
BMaker11 said:
jlmurph2 said:

Same thing happened when XB1 won December NPD too.

When the PS4 was extremely supply constrained? And was only outsold buring 40k during Christmas? Had Sony been able to keep up with demand, it would have demolished the XBone in December, like it did every following month when they were able to do better at meeting demand. 

Lol so what are you saying? Is being available in stores good or bad? Because I'm seeing contradicting points from you.

XB1 did so good in December because it was readily available.

XB1 must be doing bad now that the $399 SKU is readily available.

Is the Wii U selling gangbusters because its not available? Or is not being available keeping them from doing that?

I'm just saying it barely outsold a supply constrained PS4, so that shouldn't really be a talking point.  It certainly didn't do bad in December, but that just comes with the territory of it being Christmas. Even WiiU sold a half million, almost as much as the 360's first Christmas with no current gen competition, and that's the "doomed" console. But there's a difference between "readily available" and "stacks of the product". Let's just say that if the PS4 had those amounts of stockpiles available, its December sales would have been through the roof.

But now we're at a time where there isn't a holiday rush, so retailers aren't ordering a bunch of product to be prepared for expected demand. Meaning, at least according to Arkaign, 10 days later, what the stores ordered hasn't sold. I could be wrong about my assumption about ordering a bunch to meet expected demand, and a bunch sold and the guy saw the remaining products. But it's June, so I doubt Walmart, Gamestop, Target, etc. is ordering a crap ton of consoles, since these are the dead months for video games. 

When you say the XBone did "so good" in December, it's only "good" because it won. But it only won because its competition wasn't able to produce enough product in that region. In that regard, I see no contradicting points. There should be an asteriks next to "XB1 did so good in December because it was readily available" since PS4 wasn't. It didn't do "so good" by virtue of it being so available. It did "so good" because it sold more than its direct competitor, which wasn't as available to be sold. If I had 10 Zunes and 5 iPods, then sold out of my iPods and sold 7 Zunes, it looks like Zune did better, right? But if I had 10 iPods, I would have sold out of iPods. Compare it to now, though, where inventory levels are about equal. You see less PS4s in stores than XBones and we can agree, right now, that XBone sales are bad. So when you see so much stock of Xbones, that should tell you something.

Look, I'm not denying that there won't be a boost in sales. But just looking at recent history, when you see a bunch of XBones everywhere, the result is XB1 < PS4 WW, when all things are otherwise equal. Sorry for small novel