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Scisca said:
dane007 said:

its an opinion  not fact. not everyone prefers Sony exclusives for first party over MS ones. they re gamers who prefer the ppposite.  thats a fact. At this moment, 6 mohts  into the gen, MS has more First party AAA  and thast not counting the ones being released this year that we know of.  You do know there are people who rate games on  metacritic for the sake of lowering the score if you are basing on user score.

 

Actually MS already announced 3 exclusive japanese for xo and anounced that there will be one more revealed at E3. also they announced that they have 4-+ develpers making games for XO. Thats pretty good so far. http://www.vg247.com/2014/04/23/xbox-one-japanese-release-date-announced-40-developers-pledge-support/ 

 

The extra amount of screen tearing on Xo is so small that is hardly visible. ii seen my brothers ps4 version adn compared with mine XO version. Even DF didn't say the difference in screen tearing were tiny. so really its jsut teh small resolution difference.  The texture quality and AA re all identical. even the foliage are identicla and so is the shadow quality. the difference is hardly like the difference between RDR ON PS3, Fallout 3 where it was beyong just teh resolution difference, but also frame rate difference, texture quality, shadow quality, draw distance and so on. thats what you call a hge difference which made 360 the sueprior one.( thats a known fact) This gen the diffeence is minute.

Again the visuals for WD on boht consoles are identical even to the texture quality  and AA MS still sypporting xbox 360 and is still doing well. At the moment in term o first party titel, MS is leasing the pack.  it may change when sony announces more. Whether it will have better graphics ,, thats your personal opinion. ps ryse is considered to be the best looking game when next gen launched and got nominated  at teh dice awards for its graphics. ( thats a  fact :) )

 


You will never understand why the sales are the way they are if you keep on believing the bs you keep writing.

What I called facts are facts, not opinons. If you think otherwise - prove it, a sole statement like that is a capitulation on your part. MS or Sony preference is opinion. The marks games get, the number of exclusive games released, the different genres covered are objective facts and Sony wins in all of these categories. MS and Sony suffer the same from people rating games lower because of their bias, so you can't say this somehow defends MS. Facts.

OK, MS has bought a handful of Japanese games. I wonder what these games are gonna turn out to be. They did the same last gen - how much did it matter and how much did it last? You wanna bet the scenario is gonna repeat? No Japanese developer will have any kind of motivation to make XO games unless MS overpays it. I have no idea why they are doing this, it's just a waste of money.

Why do you keep ignoring the higher resolution and an extra hour of gameplay on PS4 version of WD? The game looks better on PS4 and has extra content. It matters to people - #dealwithit. It is the superior version no matter how much you spin it. The fact that the difference isn't as big as in the case of some last gen games doesn't matter at all, this argument is absurd. X360 was reaping the benefits of being the superior 3rd party console, now PS4 is in that place and is rightfully getting the profits - how is that you understood it last gen, but are somehow spinning and downplaying it this gen, when your prefered console is the inferior one? Hardwarewise the difference between PS4 and XO is much bigger than the difference between PS3 and X360. Just because the devs haven't yet shown it or because they failed at taking advantage of PS3's power is a different case. What matters is that the visuals aren't identical - fact.

Your argument about MS still supporting X360 is just a bad joke. Really, don't say stuff like that cause you're just asking to be obliterated in this argument. The support PS3 received last year, this year and will get next year can't be compared to what X360 got. It was the same story with PS2 vs Xbox. It can be assumed it will be the same with PS4 vs. XO, cause that's the way these companies roll.

Even if we accept that MS is slightly ahead now with exclusives or that Ryse is the best looking launch game, all it does is lead a cripple fight of shitty games nobody cares about. On the other hand every single multiplat game plays better on PS4 - and thus far multiplats have been more important that 1st party games. The fact is - the future is brighter for PS4 and people buy consoles for years to come.

Better graphics isn't an opinon, wtf are you even saying!? It is a fact. PS4 is much more powerful and exclusive 1st party games will look better thanks to this, since even multiplats look better, there is no way around it. No XO game will ever come close to what Naughty Dog does with PS4. Everyone know it's true, accept it and stop lying to yourself.

It's sad to see that you are too biased to accept plain facts, but if you keep going that way, you will never understand why the charts look the way they do.


"Better graphics isn't an opinon, wtf are you even saying!? It is a fact. PS4 is much more powerful and exclusive 1st party games will look better thanks to this, since even multiplats look better, there is no way around it. No XO game will ever come close to what Naughty Dog does with PS4. Everyone know it's true, accept it and stop lying to yourself." i mentioned that because RYSE before ISS was considered the best looking game and got nominated for dice awards and that is XO . iThat time we only had KZ and that beat thats why i mentioned it . Last gen, there were games on 360 that i owuld consider equal to their games or at least better loooking but i won't go there. we have yet to see ND uncharted 4 graphics. Quantum theory graphics looks to be very good and the witcher 3 would set the benchmark as its an open world that is 30% bigger then skyrim.  that is both and XO game and a ps4 game.  In terms of multiplats ,, i agree ps4 version will always look better but teh differences are small and nothing compared to what it was last gen. 

 

 you fail to realis it doesn't matter to me as i own them both nd will get to experience both side exclusives.  but to say one is light years superior is wrong and sad in my opinion.



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How many Watch Dogs do y'all need to realize that the PS4 is now the lead dev console and has the multiplat advantage? The only way the XB1 will have an advantage in a multiplat is if it is deliberate. Else case, the PS4 will outspec it by default. If the PS4 was 100$ more than the XB1, maybe this wouldn't matter as much, but at 100$ less and even price parity, the effect of this will simply become more obvious as the generation continues.



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i dont see it as watchdogs being the deciding factor between the two, but as the point where already decided gamers finally leap to next gen.

Gamers who know they want a ps4, know the exclusives will be better, the multiplats will have better performance.. and WD is just the first game they really want to move on to next gen for.



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guiduc said:
That doesn't stop Watch Dogs from being an average game, boost or not.

Keep spreading the unwarranted hate, your opinion is not fact, average games don't sell 4 + million in days..Game is very good.



TheBoneCollector said:
guiduc said:
That doesn't stop Watch Dogs from being an average game, boost or not.

Keep spreading the unwarranted hate, your opinion is not fact, average games don't sell 4 + million in days..Game is very good.


and your opinion isnt fact either, and lots of its sales came at launch before people could play the game, so dont bring its sales into how good the game is.   some people hate the game, some think its average, and some really like it.   my opinion sides with guiduc as its average. could even say its good, but in my opinion very good is a stretch.



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DD_Bwest said:
TheBoneCollector said:
guiduc said:
That doesn't stop Watch Dogs from being an average game, boost or not.

Keep spreading the unwarranted hate, your opinion is not fact, average games don't sell 4 + million in days..Game is very good.


and your opinion isnt fact either, and lots of its sales came at launch before people could play the game, so dont bring its sales into how good the game is.   some people hate the game, some think its average, and some really like it.   my opinion sides with guiduc as its average. could even say its good, but in my opinion very good is a stretch.

Thanks for proving my point, you just described every game ever made, what cannot be denied is people want watchdogs.



dane007 said:
Nicklesbe said:

That is a flat out lie and contradictory. You cannot say one minute "yes I noticed all these differences" and then say another minute that there are no noticeable difference. It's not true quit saying. Quit bringing up DF, anything he said is completely hearsay and is completely outside of your or my experiences. Unlike you I've seen it in side by side on ps4, Xb1 and ps3. The quality of the audio is not the same, the quality of the textures is not the same. It is not possible to display textures in 720p with the same quality as 900p. Yes there are more frequent fps drops in the ps3 version but they still occur in the Xb1 version. Tearing can be just as frequent at times. I've seen it myself so you can keep spouting the same unfounded nonsense over and over and contradicting yourself and just plain ignoring reality but none of it holds true.


maybe i worded it wrong. I was trying to say that in terms of lighting, texture, physics , water  quality and draw distance are identical with no differene. the only difference would be screen tearing whihc happens a bit more  on xbox one.  my experience with it is exactly as mentioned above ,, the only difference is i could dbealy notice screen tearing ,, especially frequency of it. they di dhappen but to say one occurs moe then the other is hard to spot. Hence why i beleive df analyss as they are the experts in the analysis area. I know theres a resolution difference but on my 55inch tv ,, i couldn't see the difference. to be honest ,, if i didn't know about teh resolution difference,, i wouldn't be able to tell which is ps4 version and which is XO version. The audio not the same? do elaborate on that since DF never mentioned yet.  and ps3 is so bad that it flatlines at constant 20fps with anything  elseremoved to make it run on last gen specs. DF specifically said that and i know for sure XO doe not run at a  constant 20fps with absurd screen tearing as mentioned in the DF report. i hoep i made my explanation cleare. sorry fo rthe misunderstandings

They aren't identical tho. Not even close. It's not possible. Try standing closer to your TV or get larger than 55 inch. If you do you will notice the real disparity in texture quality. As far as audio goes both the Xb1 and ps3 audio is more compressed, which is noticeable if you have two TV's right next to each other. If you really want to hear the difference i suggest investing in some high quality headphones like a Bose Quietcomfort. You will hear a noticeable difference. It doesn't matter what DF said according to you you saw PS4 and Xb1 side by side. If you really did then surly you would have seen and heard a real difference. I'm starting to think you never actually have since your own reference point seems to be what DF said and your own personal experiences are contradictory and at times simply not possible. I've seen Xb1 drop to 15-20 fps  in areas with lots of enemy gun fire with 20+ enemies and sometimes during digital trips and right after some online multiplayer games end. Like races or being killed by someone you are tailing/hacking. I wouldn't call you being deceptive, contradictory, and putting your foot repeatedly in your mouth a misunderstanding but to each their own.



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lol at Dane still truying to argue there is barely a diff between ps4 and x1, such denial, such butthurt.



TheBoneCollector said:
DD_Bwest said:
TheBoneCollector said:
guiduc said:
That doesn't stop Watch Dogs from being an average game, boost or not.

Keep spreading the unwarranted hate, your opinion is not fact, average games don't sell 4 + million in days..Game is very good.


and your opinion isnt fact either, and lots of its sales came at launch before people could play the game, so dont bring its sales into how good the game is.   some people hate the game, some think its average, and some really like it.   my opinion sides with guiduc as its average. could even say its good, but in my opinion very good is a stretch.

Thanks for proving my point, you just described every game ever made, what cannot be denied is people want watchdogs.

care to explain how it is very good, without bringing sales into it?   his point was that despite sales its an average game, and all you can do its bring sales back into it. 



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DD_Bwest said:

care to explain how it is very good, without bringing sales into it?   his point was that despite sales its an average game, and all you can do its bring sales back into it. 


it has tits and giant robot spiders..does that count? :P



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