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TheBoneCollector on 08 June 2014
Nicklesbe said:
TheBoneCollector said:
DD_Bwest said:

the detail and conversations are utterly terrible.  i have heard the same conversations 50+ times,  all of them, i havent heard a new conversation in days.  the city has glitches and problems everywhere.   Hacking is repetitive and useless except when its forced upon you.  some of the mechanics are terrible, youll be looking directly at something and hit square(while the hack icon is there) and it ill have something else.   there are times when you get the icon, and it dissapears, and you have to move around trying to get it to repear, the hacking has so many problems with it.   The AI for pedestrians and enemies are crap. especially pedestrians.  I have had200+ run into the side of my car. I had one who didnt stop running from one side of my bumper to the other trying to get hit, even with me honking.  I have them yell "we hae roads for a reason"  while im on the fucking road. If they are calling the cops, all you have to do is scare them for them to stop.  the cops cant do anything to you once your in a boat.  at any point if you have 4-5 stars, just hop in a boat.   There is no hip fire at all.   They give you the option to get a car anytime you want,  except during a mission.  Understandable, but if you show up to a mission with a car, you loose that car the second you have to redo anything, if you die or wanna restart.   so if you want the car again you have to go all the way out.   The story is utterly terrible, with non-likeable characters and unbelieveable dialoge. especially the interactions between aiden and his sister. oh by the way, Hes batman.  at one point, during the non-skippable cut scenes where it pans over people appearing and you cant control,  it had an enemy spawn next to me and kill me before i had control again.

Hit square to win!

 

edit:  oh yea and cant forget the parking lot that isnt connected to any roads,  complete with cars in it


This is one of biggest piles ofhyperbolic BS i have ever seen, same 50 conversations? I've seen them duplicated ince mnaybe twice in 20 + houts, Ai is bad? Compared to what? It's a lot bettrer then GTA's, sorry but you are taking every tiny nit pick, making it sound 1000 times worse to try and make your point, not taking anything uyou say seriiusly, you clearly have an agenda against this game.  Anyone can make up a post like this about any game ever made, sad.

odd that reviews, myself or no one else I know who is playing have any issues like you describe wityh the AI, they don;t do or act like that for me, wonder why? Someone has an agenda.

 

It's a game not real life bro lol.  Comparing a game to how real life works is cringe worth desperate.


Did i miss something? When did he compare it to real life? I would compare it to other open world games like itself. In that case it introduces some new and interesting ideas, but is ultimately lacking. I'm sure the sequel will be better but in all honesty this game has some serious kinks to work out in game play. i was super hyped about all the new traffic things you could hack. It seemed interesting for literally 5 minutes and then I unlocked the uPlay stealth car with points from previous games and never really used em since. Aside from maybe the bridge. The car was so fast and hit so hard I didn't need anything else. I also found it annoying that a master hacker couldn't just create a script that auto hacked every hackable person within a radius to him. Instead ya have to look at every single person. The economy is pretty much an unbalanced joke. Bought everything after 10 minutes and then pretty much used none of it because the items unlocked from side tasks or the u100 or what ever its called that's dropped by heavys is 100x better than anything else. I literally used the Destroyer sniper like 90% of the game. Sometimes i would get bored tho and would alternate between two top pistols from time to time just because they looked cool and the enemy Ai was frankly underwhelming. I'm also really surprised they didn't do anything with drones or actually let you hack cars computers. There is always next time tho. This was an alright first step and introduced some cool concepts. 

What would be really cool imo is if Ubisoft took a bunch of their characters like splinter cell, Assassins creed, far cry, watch dogs, maybe even the crew. I'm sure there are more but it would be cool if they made a game where they were all in the same universe set in a modern time period and did like "league of extraordinary gentlemen" kind of thing. Something like smash brothers but an action game or rpg/ shooter with cool puzzles open world cities and climbing n shit.

You brought up minor things, exaggerted them like they make the game bad, in comparison to what?  You say other open eorld games? LOL, Play GTA lately? The ai and NPC's in GTA are not near as sophisticated as what are in WD, you are just spewing ther typical hate from holier then thou message board trolls.

 

GTA's economy is not broke? NAme 1 game that it isn;t?  You are exageratting to try and make your point, keep hating, meanwhile most are happily playing WD and it is going to be a major franchise. Must be miserable to be like you and playing games. The AI in GTA is really sub par please, they don;t eve move when you run at them in your car, in WD they try to avoid you, even listenm when you use your horn. The shooting and combat mechanics in GAT are also poor compared to watch dogs.

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Nicklesbe on 08 June 2014
TheBoneCollector said:
Nicklesbe said:
TheBoneCollector said:


This is one of biggest piles ofhyperbolic BS i have ever seen, same 50 conversations? I've seen them duplicated ince mnaybe twice in 20 + houts, Ai is bad? Compared to what? It's a lot bettrer then GTA's, sorry but you are taking every tiny nit pick, making it sound 1000 times worse to try and make your point, not taking anything uyou say seriiusly, you clearly have an agenda against this game.  Anyone can make up a post like this about any game ever made, sad.

odd that reviews, myself or no one else I know who is playing have any issues like you describe wityh the AI, they don;t do or act like that for me, wonder why? Someone has an agenda.

 

It's a game not real life bro lol.  Comparing a game to how real life works is cringe worth desperate.


Did i miss something? When did he compare it to real life? I would compare it to other open world games like itself. In that case it introduces some new and interesting ideas, but is ultimately lacking. I'm sure the sequel will be better but in all honesty this game has some serious kinks to work out in game play. i was super hyped about all the new traffic things you could hack. It seemed interesting for literally 5 minutes and then I unlocked the uPlay stealth car with points from previous games and never really used em since. Aside from maybe the bridge. The car was so fast and hit so hard I didn't need anything else. I also found it annoying that a master hacker couldn't just create a script that auto hacked every hackable person within a radius to him. Instead ya have to look at every single person. The economy is pretty much an unbalanced joke. Bought everything after 10 minutes and then pretty much used none of it because the items unlocked from side tasks or the u100 or what ever its called that's dropped by heavys is 100x better than anything else. I literally used the Destroyer sniper like 90% of the game. Sometimes i would get bored tho and would alternate between two top pistols from time to time just because they looked cool and the enemy Ai was frankly underwhelming. I'm also really surprised they didn't do anything with drones or actually let you hack cars computers. There is always next time tho. This was an alright first step and introduced some cool concepts. 

What would be really cool imo is if Ubisoft took a bunch of their characters like splinter cell, Assassins creed, far cry, watch dogs, maybe even the crew. I'm sure there are more but it would be cool if they made a game where they were all in the same universe set in a modern time period and did like "league of extraordinary gentlemen" kind of thing. Something like smash brothers but an action game or rpg/ shooter with cool puzzles open world cities and climbing n shit.

You brought up minor things, exaggerted them like they make the game bad, in comparison to what?  You say other open eorld games? LOL, Play GTA lately? The ai and NPC's in GTA are not near as sophisticated as what are in WD, you are just spewing ther typical hate from holier then thou message board trolls.

 

GTA's economy is not broke? NAme 1 game that it isn;t?  You are exageratting to try and make your point, keep hating, meanwhile most are happily playing WD and it is going to be a major franchise. Must be miserable to be like you and playing games. The AI in GTA is really sub par please, they don;t eve move when you run at them in your car, in WD they try to avoid you, even listenm when you use your horn. The shooting and combat mechanics in GAT are also poor compared to watch dogs.





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TheBoneCollector on 08 June 2014
Nicklesbe said:

Keep up the irrational hate bro, I bet you are one of the oens quickly to post in any Destiny thread how bad it looks right? Sorry bro, those points are the definition of irational nit picking and exaggerations, and flat out falsehoods.



Soundwave on 08 June 2014

To be fair to the XBox 1, I think XB1 sales are going to be artificially lower than they normally would for those 4-5 weeks because of a Kinect-free cheaper SKU coming, perhaps there was a fair amount of people who are ready to jump in on a XB1, but want to wait for the $100 cheaper variant.

Why pay $100 extra for a system force bundled with an accessory that barely gets any use when you could wait a few weeks and get the same system minus that functionality and put that $100 towards an extra game or two. 

If you buy an XBox One today - $499 gets you XB1 with Kinect 2.0 (no game bundled)

If you buy an XBox One in a week - $520 gets you XB1 with Watch Dogs + any other game of your choice. 

Provided you don't care for Kinect or don't need it immediately, I'd rather wait the extra week if I was a budget concious consumer. 



Nicklesbe on 08 June 2014
TheBoneCollector said:
Nicklesbe said:

Keep up the irrational hate bro, I bet you are one of the oens quickly to post in any Destiny thread how bad it looks right? Sorry bro, those points are the definition of irational nit picking and exaggerations, and flat out falsehoods.

Tell me again about irrationality when you don't bother reading, or take the time to understand anything others write. Let alone take the time to make sure the irrational nonsense you spout is intelligible. Just because your jimmies are rustled  right now and you are blind to reality doesn't mean anyone is hating the game. If you bothered reading anything I said you'd see I never hated on the game. I offered constructive criticism based on my experience with it. Yes the Ai and economies in GTA V and even Saints Row are considerably better. I'm sorry you can't get over yourself or see reality for what it is. if you can't handle other people's opinions and constructive criticism maybe you should stay off the internet because you are clearly not emotionally strong enough to handle it "bro"

Try this to help with your jimmies..



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dane007 on 08 June 2014

@nickle lol my room is not big enough to have a tv bigger then 55 inches. i hate using headphones when gaming. i prefer to have a cinema surround sound when gaming. I am currently using Wharfedale DX1W 5.1 channel home cinema package. got given 5 stars rating for audio quality. the soudn to me with those speakers set were indentical. I did do a comparison but my eyes didn't notice substantial difference apart from screen tearing. Like i said ,, if i never knew the resolution for either of the games and then were given two version of the game to compare,, i wouldn't be able to tell which version si ps4 with the higher resolution. being honest here. I have experienced slowdown liek what you experienced and i am already 60 % into the game. Maybe i am lucky ? Plus no reviews or even DF mentioned slowdown like what you experienced.

@bonecollector i couldn't care les sif ps4 is the better version for small reason as i chose Xbox one version simply due to the controller and getting achievement points. the visual fidelity didn't play any part in my decision. i ahev both consoel and could have easily picked the ps4 version if i wanted to . I just staing my opinion based on the comparison i have done with my tv. Guess some are better noticing at others and seems to be betetr at noticing it then the professionals on DF.



Nicklesbe on 08 June 2014
dane007 said:
@nickle lol my room is not big enough to have a tv bigger then 55 inches. i hate using headphones when gaming. i prefer to have a cinema surround sound when gaming. I am currently using Wharfedale DX1W 5.1 channel home cinema package. got given 5 stars rating for audio quality. the soudn to me with those speakers set were indentical. I did do a comparison but my eyes didn't notice substantial difference apart from screen tearing. Like i said ,, if i never knew the resolution for either of the games and then were given two version of the game to compare,, i wouldn't be able to tell which version si ps4 with the higher resolution. being honest here. I have experienced slowdown liek what you experienced and i am already 60 % into the game. Maybe i am lucky ? Plus no reviews or even DF mentioned slowdown like what you experienced.

@bonecollector i couldn't care les sif ps4 is the better version for small reason as i chose Xbox one version simply due to the controller and getting achievement points. the visual fidelity didn't play any part in my decision. i ahev both consoel and could have easily picked the ps4 version if i wanted to . I just staing my opinion based on the comparison i have done with my tv. Guess some are better noticing at others and seems to be betetr at noticing it then the professionals on DF.

Stand closer to it then. http://carltonbale.com/1080p-does-matter/ I have two 72-Inch  Tv's and on them the difference is noticible. 



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efilysp on 08 June 2014
DerNebel said:

Didn't we go over all that already?

Here are some points:

- exclusive PS4 bundle
- exclusive content on PS4
- exclusive PS4 marketing
- Watch Dogs PS4 is probably widely known to be the better version
- the Kinectless X1 releases tomorrow, so people might be more likely to just wait until the price drops $100
- it did actually help, it gave a 25% boost

Anything I forgot?

EDIT: Oh, and I just read your part about the exclusives, lol, so that's the direction you want this thread to go.


Indeed.



BeElite on 08 June 2014
Soundwave said:

If you buy an XBox One today - $499 gets you XB1 with Kinect 2.0 (no game bundled)


499 titanfall bundle is still up for sale on amazon, so a kinect and game costs you extra bill not to shabby a deal, 399 will do little to lift sales.



Barenziah on 08 June 2014

who knew watch dogs was going to shift so much,sony backed a winner

the PS4 is the leading gen 8 console shown by the leading sales for watch dogs,hard to argue against this and why microsoft are dumping their Kinect to get the price down to improve sales



  

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