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dane007 said:
Nicklesbe said:

It is comming out on PC and steam box. it's in the steam database now. Since steam box is a console and will have access to the full steam library Dr3 is no longer a console exclusive :/ http://gematsu.com/2014/06/dead-rising-3-appears-steam-database

saw the info on gamespot. steam box is not out yet so till it does ,, it still a console exclusive .

It could come out on ps4 in 2016. That doesn't mean it will be a console exclusive until 2016, it means it stopped being an exclusive the moment the news was released. It's no different than steam. Again, ya just have to accept the reality for what it is instead of ignoring it because it doesn't fit your preconceived notions.



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saw the info on gamespot. steam box is not out yet so till it does ,, it still a console exclusive .


You can desperately try and spin it all you want. However, fact is DR3 is no longer exclusive 



Scisca said:
dane007 said:

I would glady take Titanfall over KZ  . i got both and the smoothness you get with titanfall make it hard to go back to kz in my opinion. KZ game is still fun to play in terms of single player campaign. Well based on what games was available at launch ,, i chose and bought XO first before i got PS4.  For me future doesn't matter as i get all eventually. but i know for most budget gamers ,, they would pick a console with games that like or games that htey know will come to a specific consoles. 
Can't comment on WII U as i haven't purchased it yet.  Thats opinion and great that you prefer sony first party exclusives over XO.  I prefer  Xo exclusives more but both have good exclusives like ISS which for me is the best first Party AAA on ps4  . XO will get japanese games much like 360 did. X360 did get japanese games that ps3 didn't get either and both had japanese games that came on both platforms. so don't know what you are talking about.  they were recent news of XO getting three japanese exclusives and one to be announced in the upcoming E3. WD looks similar on oth consoles. Even DF did the analysis.  me an my brother got copies of the game and they look identical.( i got XO and he got PS4) The only difference is the small resolution boost, slightly  more screen tearing on XO which rarely happens.  Apart from that its identical. don't know where you get the better lookin game ,, unless you are talking about resolution?  Sure there are gamers who would pick ps4 version purely on those tiny difference which is fine by me.

"Anyone who wants to get the most out of their money chooses PS4." Again thats your opinion not fact. 

@Bold - this doesn't matter. As I've said, both games are bad. At least KZ is a true exclusive, but that also doesn't matter much. They are both bad and thus make no difference.

@Italics - this is not an opinion. MS has nothing on Sony's first parties. Even if the quality can be comparable is the case of the flagship games, the number of such games can't even be compared. MS can't and won't pump out as many great and diverse games as Sony does. This is not an opinon, it's a fact backed up by years of track record. It is your opinion that you like MS games more, but the fact that Sony's offer is larger, more diverse and better (this last criterion I base on metacritic ratings, which are higher for Sony PS3 exclusives than X360's exclusives). It's a given that this will repeat this gen, cause Sony's 1st parties > MS 1st parties.

@ Japanese games - yeah, MS bought a handful of games at the start of last gen. It wasn't worth it, if they really want to repeat it, they'll be just losing money again. Also XO is no X360 and is even less attractive for Japanese devs.

@underlined - if there are differences, the games aren't identical. Yes, higher resolution and less screen-tearing make for a better looking game, that's exactly what better graphics consist of. An extra 60 minutes of gameplay also makes a big difference and makes the PS4 version higher value for your money. These games ARE NOT identical. The PS4 version is superior and you get more for your money. Fact.

 

dane007 said:

"Anyone who wants to get the most out of their money chooses PS4." Again thats your opinion not fact. 

This is not an opinon, it's a fact. You pay less for a more powerful hardware - fact. Even with the Kinectless version you get more HP per $1 with the PS4 ;) When you buy WD you get better visuals (and will get them better from other 3rd party games as well) and an extra hour of gameplay for the same price - fact. You will get more 1st party games on PS4 than on XO and Sony won't abandon the support as fast as MS, the games will have better graphics than MS 1st party games - I would say it's a fact, though it's "only" an assumption with a 99.(9)% of chance of becoming true. Good enough for me.

its an opinion  not fact. not everyone prefers Sony exclusives for first party over MS ones. they re gamers who prefer the ppposite.  thats a fact. At this moment, 6 mohts  into the gen, MS has more First party AAA  and thast not counting the ones being released this year that we know of.  You do know there are people who rate games on  metacritic for the sake of lowering the score if you are basing on user score.

 

Actually MS already announced 3 exclusive japanese for xo and anounced that there will be one more revealed at E3. also they announced that they have 4-+ develpers making games for XO. Thats pretty good so far. http://www.vg247.com/2014/04/23/xbox-one-japanese-release-date-announced-40-developers-pledge-support/ 

 

The extra amount of screen tearing on Xo is so small that is hardly visible. ii seen my brothers ps4 version adn compared with mine XO version. Even DF didn't say the difference in screen tearing were tiny. so really its jsut teh small resolution difference.  The texture quality and AA re all identical. even the foliage are identicla and so is the shadow quality. the difference is hardly like the difference between RDR ON PS3, Fallout 3 where it was beyong just teh resolution difference, but also frame rate difference, texture quality, shadow quality, draw distance and so on. thats what you call a hge difference which made 360 the sueprior one.( thats a known fact) This gen the diffeence is minute.

Again the visuals for WD on boht consoles are identical even to the texture quality  and AA MS still sypporting xbox 360 and is still doing well. At the moment in term o first party titel, MS is leasing the pack.  it may change when sony announces more. Whether it will have better graphics ,, thats your personal opinion. ps ryse is considered to be the best looking game when next gen launched and got nominated  at teh dice awards for its graphics. ( thats a  fact :) )

 



@max king you want the ones already released or  the pnes have been announced along with what has been released?



dane007 said:
Scisca said:
dane007 said:

I would glady take Titanfall over KZ  . i got both and the smoothness you get with titanfall make it hard to go back to kz in my opinion. KZ game is still fun to play in terms of single player campaign. Well based on what games was available at launch ,, i chose and bought XO first before i got PS4.  For me future doesn't matter as i get all eventually. but i know for most budget gamers ,, they would pick a console with games that like or games that htey know will come to a specific consoles. 
Can't comment on WII U as i haven't purchased it yet.  Thats opinion and great that you prefer sony first party exclusives over XO.  I prefer  Xo exclusives more but both have good exclusives like ISS which for me is the best first Party AAA on ps4  . XO will get japanese games much like 360 did. X360 did get japanese games that ps3 didn't get either and both had japanese games that came on both platforms. so don't know what you are talking about.  they were recent news of XO getting three japanese exclusives and one to be announced in the upcoming E3. WD looks similar on oth consoles. Even DF did the analysis.  me an my brother got copies of the game and they look identical.( i got XO and he got PS4) The only difference is the small resolution boost, slightly  more screen tearing on XO which rarely happens.  Apart from that its identical. don't know where you get the better lookin game ,, unless you are talking about resolution?  Sure there are gamers who would pick ps4 version purely on those tiny difference which is fine by me.

"Anyone who wants to get the most out of their money chooses PS4." Again thats your opinion not fact. 

@Bold - this doesn't matter. As I've said, both games are bad. At least KZ is a true exclusive, but that also doesn't matter much. They are both bad and thus make no difference.

@Italics - this is not an opinion. MS has nothing on Sony's first parties. Even if the quality can be comparable is the case of the flagship games, the number of such games can't even be compared. MS can't and won't pump out as many great and diverse games as Sony does. This is not an opinon, it's a fact backed up by years of track record. It is your opinion that you like MS games more, but the fact that Sony's offer is larger, more diverse and better (this last criterion I base on metacritic ratings, which are higher for Sony PS3 exclusives than X360's exclusives). It's a given that this will repeat this gen, cause Sony's 1st parties > MS 1st parties.

@ Japanese games - yeah, MS bought a handful of games at the start of last gen. It wasn't worth it, if they really want to repeat it, they'll be just losing money again. Also XO is no X360 and is even less attractive for Japanese devs.

@underlined - if there are differences, the games aren't identical. Yes, higher resolution and less screen-tearing make for a better looking game, that's exactly what better graphics consist of. An extra 60 minutes of gameplay also makes a big difference and makes the PS4 version higher value for your money. These games ARE NOT identical. The PS4 version is superior and you get more for your money. Fact.

 

dane007 said:

"Anyone who wants to get the most out of their money chooses PS4." Again thats your opinion not fact. 

This is not an opinon, it's a fact. You pay less for a more powerful hardware - fact. Even with the Kinectless version you get more HP per $1 with the PS4 ;) When you buy WD you get better visuals (and will get them better from other 3rd party games as well) and an extra hour of gameplay for the same price - fact. You will get more 1st party games on PS4 than on XO and Sony won't abandon the support as fast as MS, the games will have better graphics than MS 1st party games - I would say it's a fact, though it's "only" an assumption with a 99.(9)% of chance of becoming true. Good enough for me.

its an opinion  not fact. not everyone prefers Sony exclusives for first party over MS ones. they re gamers who prefer the ppposite.  thats a fact. At this moment, 6 mohts  into the gen, MS has more First party AAA  and thast not counting the ones being released this year that we know of.  You do know there are people who rate games on  metacritic for the sake of lowering the score if you are basing on user score.

 

Actually MS already announced 3 exclusive japanese for xo and anounced that there will be one more revealed at E3. also they announced that they have 4-+ develpers making games for XO. Thats pretty good so far. http://www.vg247.com/2014/04/23/xbox-one-japanese-release-date-announced-40-developers-pledge-support/ 

 

The extra amount of screen tearing on Xo is so small that is hardly visible. ii seen my brothers ps4 version adn compared with mine XO version. Even DF didn't say the difference in screen tearing were tiny. so really its jsut teh small resolution difference.  The texture quality and AA re all identical. even the foliage are identicla and so is the shadow quality. the difference is hardly like the difference between RDR ON PS3, Fallout 3 where it was beyong just teh resolution difference, but also frame rate difference, texture quality, shadow quality, draw distance and so on. thats what you call a hge difference which made 360 the sueprior one.( thats a known fact) This gen the diffeence is minute.

Again the visuals for WD on boht consoles are identical even to the texture quality  and AA MS still sypporting xbox 360 and is still doing well. At the moment in term o first party titel, MS is leasing the pack.  it may change when sony announces more. Whether it will have better graphics ,, thats your personal opinion. ps ryse is considered to be the best looking game when next gen launched and got nominated  at teh dice awards for its graphics. ( thats a  fact :) )

 

Again some opinions are based on provable evidence, others are based on delusion. You are flat out lying at this point and contradicting your precious statements about WD quality. They aren't identical, the tearing is not tiny and is very noticeable and there is a great disparity in over all quality in WD on ps4 and Xb1. Xb1 and ps3 on the other hand is proven to have very little disparity in quality  



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MS should invest in their studios instead of buying yearly exclusives and stupid early DLC



Nicklesbe said:
dane007 said:
Nicklesbe said:

It is comming out on PC and steam box. it's in the steam database now. Since steam box is a console and will have access to the full steam library Dr3 is no longer a console exclusive :/ http://gematsu.com/2014/06/dead-rising-3-appears-steam-database

saw the info on gamespot. steam box is not out yet so till it does ,, it still a console exclusive .

It could come out on ps4 in 2016. That doesn't mean it will be a console exclusive until 2016, it means it stopped being an exclusive the moment the news was released. It's no different than steam. Again, ya just have to accept the reality for what it is instead of ignoring it because it doesn't fit your preconceived notions.


it being releasedon steand pc makes no difference to me as i have the game n xbox one. if more peopel can play then thats great as more sales the game makes ,, higher  the chance for DR4. Thats fine but for me the machine has be physical out and into teh consuemer hands first otherwise it doesn't count ;). DR3 is a kick ass game and its great pc gamers get a chance to play it. 



BeElite said:
dane007 said:
 

"Anyone who wants to get the most out of their money chooses PS4." Again thats your opinion not fact. 


Actaully it is fact bud.

Best hardware for least amount of money

Most f2p games

Plus has given out way more free games then Live.

Lets add X1 controller lacks rechargable batteries and you need an adapter to use your own headset.  (together extra 50$)

Actually, that is not fact at all, but your opinion.  It's all based on what games the person buying the system prefers.  This was the first generation that I did not buy a system at launch (two actually, the PS4 or Xbox One), because neither system has a single exclusive game out that I want yet.  So for me, neither would be a good deal as they would just sit the collecting dust.





Stop hating and start playing.

dane007 said:
Nicklesbe said:

It could come out on ps4 in 2016. That doesn't mean it will be a console exclusive until 2016, it means it stopped being an exclusive the moment the news was released. It's no different than steam. Again, ya just have to accept the reality for what it is instead of ignoring it because it doesn't fit your preconceived notions.


it being releasedon steand pc makes no difference to me as i have the game n xbox one. if more peopel can play then thats great as more sales the game makes ,, higher  the chance for DR4. Thats fine but for me the machine has be physical out and into teh consuemer hands first otherwise it doesn't count ;). DR3 is a kick ass game and its great pc gamers get a chance to play it. 


It doesn't matter if it makes a difference to you. it makes a difference to reality which you keep willfully ignoring, and is extremely unhealthy, and frankly is counter-productive to any argument you ever make. How can anyone take you seriously if you continually give everyone the impression that your grip on reality is tenuous at best? No one that's who and that ends up being detrimental to the xbox brand because frankly not a lot of people want to play with those kinds of people.



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BuckStud said:
BeElite said:
dane007 said:
 

"Anyone who wants to get the most out of their money chooses PS4." Again thats your opinion not fact. 


Actaully it is fact bud.

Best hardware for least amount of money

Most f2p games

Plus has given out way more free games then Live.

Lets add X1 controller lacks rechargable batteries and you need an adapter to use your own headset.  (together extra 50$)

Actually, that is not fact at all, but your opinion.  It's all based on what games the person buying the system prefers.  This was the first generation that I did not buy a system at launch (two actually, the PS4 or Xbox One), because neither system has a single exclusive game out that I want yet.  So for me, neither would be a good deal as they would just sit the collecting dust.



The hardware is not opinion, nor is it subject to interpretation.  The PS4 is just plain more powerful.

He said nothing about the games, other than to say it has the most F2P, and that PS+ has given out more.  Not that one side has the better games or not.