Ow.. btw.. didn't they also screwed up X-men Apocalyps? which takes place in the 80's but everyting in the future is alright as we saw Wolverine waking up in 2023.. so nothing really important is gonna happen when Apocalyps comes..

You raise a good point, if it happens in the 80s and everything is alright after that, then the threat Poccy poses is obviously pointless. But here is the thing, in nearly all fiction like this, movies, TV series, books and most importantly comics, the good guy always wins. It's not about the final outcome, it's about how they get there.

thank you, that was bugging me the whole time, glad someone else noticed it as well.

also the thing is X1 X2 and X3 including Orgin did happen and that was the reason Wolverine was sent back to alter that time line which in effect takes out the striker arc and puts Mystique in it, so those movies did happen but now they are in different dimension. And in this new dimension, where everyone is alive only wolverine and Professor knew what happened which also ties up the wolverines remembering everything as he had lost his memory at the end of orgins.

TBH as great as First Class was, that movie messed up the xmen timeline which previous movie had going up untill Orgins.. how can ema frost be a teen in orgins and a grown up adult in First class when First class happened before the events of Orgins, which basically throws off other characters in previous movie especially Scott 

And also In Orgins it was mentioned that Logan and Sabertooth spent a century or so figthing wars including vietnam war which happened around the same time as DOFP..

I dont know which movie screwed up the timeline the most FC or orgins.. if we ignore one of this movies every other movie in the series makes sense

Saw it last night (finally had a day off). When the lights came on, after the Apocalypse reveal, I was so embarrassed that everyone saw me fapping like an insane zoo monkey. Couldn't help it, though.

I loved it. Whether it was better or worse than Captain America 2 or Dark Knight is something I'll answer for myself after repeated viewings. All I can say is that, as a comics fan and a DC fan, Marvel's comic movies have REALLY raised the bar. DC does okay but Marvel knocks it out of the park!

Any issues with the story can be explained the way Marvel explains everything: Nanomachines, unstable molecules, and time travel. Case closed.

Let me see what's in the ol' asshole.....

*pulls out explanation*

I guess Mistique became Striker because he was just a high ranking military guy.  When Logan was pulled from the water, she went back to living her life, peeing sitting down, etc.  She didn't remain striker for the rest of her life, you know.

Anyway, Wolverine jumped into future Wolverine with no memories aside from drowning.  Past Wolverine probably still fell into Striker's hands and everything unfolded the way that it should.  Xavier surely didn't want to change too much considering they'd need Wolverine with full adamantium in the future.  

Would they? A non-magnetic metal Wolverine would be a dang site more handy against Mags than adamantium version, and you know like I do that adamantium Wolverine is less powerful than bone version.

Good to hear another fans thoughts. Mind you, just a shame for current X-men comics we can't just use the 'time travel' excuse. It's Bendis' inability to understand basic time travel logic as the reason it so messed up/broken as feck. Thank god for Brian Wood.

Personally I loved First Class more than x1,2 and 3. And we knew First Class was going to lead to X1 eventually. Didnt stop it from being awesome imo.

Adamantium free Wolverine still only lasted 6 seconds against Magneto in this film.  I guess he's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.  Non adamantium wolverine would still be useless against other threats, though.  His dense bone claws couldn't even cut my steak at Waffle House....though I'm not sure his adamantium claws could cut their steak, either.  Matter of fact, forget I mentioned the steak.  Bad memories.

*Edit*  I'm more of a DC fan but I do love me some Marvel, too!  I remember when Logan lost his adamantium (I still have the issue with the holgram on the cover!) and then his healing factor went into overload.  I'd say he was more poweful.  I went a while without reading comics but during Civil War, I can't think of the guy's name blew Wolverine up to the point where there was absolutely nothing left but an adamatium skeleton (as if he had adamantium ligaments and tendons).  Anyway, Wolverine regenerated from THAT and back to full power.  At that point, I said "Fuck this comic and this character."  I got over it, though.  Anyway, my point is that I think Adamantium Wolverine is more powerful than bone claw wolverine (which is so much weaker that it doesn't even get capital letters!).

Well, as a film I definitely put it above Iron Man 3.  It is block buste rin nature, but also has a dense plot that asks viewers to remember previous films a great deal.  I could see someone walking out confused if they never saw any of the other ones.  Comparing it to Iron Man 1 is hard because this is a big vast cast while Iron Man exceeded at tight narrative structure of Tony Stark (the villains were forgettable to me across all of Iron Man).  Iron Man 1 is definitely more non fan friendly in that respect.

Over all I would say if you enjoyed X1, X2 and/or X:FC then X:DoFP is at the same level which is commendable given how many moving parts it had.

Makes me wish there were more live action episodic versions of comic books on the small screen. So much history that a film just can't do justice. Smallville and Arrow are a great starts. Maybe even Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. never watched it.