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Do you consider Nintendo for children?

Yes 207 49.52%
 
No 211 50.48%
 
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joel1989 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
joel1989 said:
it all started with the gamecube looking like a purple lunch box,, then the wii took it to the next level.


No. Videogames had always been consider to be a product for kids until the Playstation came out and changed peoples mentality as to what a videogame console did.Nintendo was always seen as a toy back then. Sony brought the multimedia aspect to gaming and used it as a central hub. Before that Nintendo was basically every Toys R Us and every toy stores dream in the 90's until EB and other gaming stores came out. Nintendo has always aimed at children and families with their marketing. If anything was mature it wasnt first party.


can't agree with you there, yea playstation made gaming more mainstream, but eventually it was gonna get there because graphics and games were getting more advanced so they appeal to grown ups more, it was always bound to happen, n64 propbably had the best game for adults, its called golden eye 007.


Nintendo was never considered cool. Hate to break it to you but even Sega was considered the cool system for teens back in the 90's even though it failed to beat Nintendo. Nintendo has always been the family friendly console. I'm sure many of you here have taken a marketing class and taken classes on target demographics. Nintendo has always chased children and families and no, the N64 was not aimed at adults. This is not an opinion. They learned how to focus on a specific target market with characters from Disney. They used to license cards for children before they even laid their hands on a  videogame console. You can like Nintendo as an adult, but thats because Nintendo is trying to appeal to the inner child of most families but are mostly focused on children. They want you to sit with your family and friends and enjoy a friendly game or sometimes even a single player game or two. They still to this day are focused on family couch gameplay.

P.S.

Nintendo doesnt make games for adults. The highest they go is Teen. They fund second party to make their mature rated games. This is what Rares job was. Nintendo themselves dont go beyond Everyone to a Teen rating for first party. Look at Bayonetta.....thats second party. They know they need a more mature image and need "cool" games so they are paying outsiders to do what they wont. Goldeneye was a second party Rare title made for Nintendo. If Nintendo was so sure they wanted to make mature titles with violence they would do it themselves, but that would tarnish their image which is essentially squeaky clean.



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padib said:
joel1989 said:

can't agree with you there, yea playstation made gaming more mainstream, but eventually it was gonna get there because graphics and games were getting more advanced so they appeal to grown ups more, it was always bound to happen, n64 propbably had the best game for adults, its called golden eye 007.

I'd even go so far as to say the N64 was a more adult-oriented console than the Playstation was.


Rares games were more adult oriented, but Nintendos games were not. The clear difference between intention of first and second party, my friend.  If you ever got that feeling of mature gaming from Nintendo remember it was mostly Rares doing  as Rare carried the other half of their burden. So sad...now they are gone and their IP's belong to Microsoft now. I wonder how mature their titles have made Microsoft seem. Not much at all as it seems, because Microsoft always endorsed mature titles. Gears is first party now, which is something Nintendo would never do to tarnish their good name.



VanceIX said:
Nintendo's policies on leaving out violence and sexuality is a reason they are sadly seen as children-only consoles. I personally appreciate their games, it's a fresh breath from the mindless gore and violence filling todays games.

However, it's also a reason why violent (but amazing) games like the Elder Scrolls and Fallout won't be coming to Nintendo consoles anytime soon.


Elder Scrolls isnt coming to Nintendo consoles nor fallout because no Nintendo console has ever been up to par when they launched the titles on consoles. Nintendo is a non-entity because they don't play ball with the third party who push the limits. Nintendo though loved in the 90's was considered a joke to the PC realm and not even considered a threat at all. It wasnt until Sony that the PC realm became threatened, hence the Xbox.



S.T.A.G.E. said:
VanceIX said:
Nintendo's policies on leaving out violence and sexuality is a reason they are sadly seen as children-only consoles. I personally appreciate their games, it's a fresh breath from the mindless gore and violence filling todays games.

However, it's also a reason why violent (but amazing) games like the Elder Scrolls and Fallout won't be coming to Nintendo consoles anytime soon.


Elder Scrolls isnt coming to Nintendo consoles nor fallout because no Nintendo console has ever been up to par when they launched the titles on consoles. Nintendo is a non-entity because they don't play ball with the third party who push the limits. Nintendo though loved in the 90's was considered a joke to the PC realm and not even considered a threat at all. It wasnt until Sony that the PC realm became threatened, hence the Xbox.

I agree that Nintendo consoles have always been seriously underpowered, but even with the power to match the other consoles games like the Elder Scrolls and Fallout series won't come to Nintendo's consoles because of their strict and overbearing policies towards violence. 



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VanceIX said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
VanceIX said:
Nintendo's policies on leaving out violence and sexuality is a reason they are sadly seen as children-only consoles. I personally appreciate their games, it's a fresh breath from the mindless gore and violence filling todays games.

However, it's also a reason why violent (but amazing) games like the Elder Scrolls and Fallout won't be coming to Nintendo consoles anytime soon.


Elder Scrolls isnt coming to Nintendo consoles nor fallout because no Nintendo console has ever been up to par when they launched the titles on consoles. Nintendo is a non-entity because they don't play ball with the third party who push the limits. Nintendo though loved in the 90's was considered a joke to the PC realm and not even considered a threat at all. It wasnt until Sony that the PC realm became threatened, hence the Xbox.

I agree that Nintendo consoles have always been seriously underpowered, but even with the power to match the other consoles games like the Elder Scrolls and Fallout series won't come to Nintendo's consoles because of their strict and overbearing policies towards violence. 


Third party and second party can make mature games and RPG's for Nintendos consoles. There is no barrier outside what Nintendo creates for themselves. Mass Effect 3 was on the Wii U was it not?  Nintendo doesn't make mature titles themselves and thats the way they like it. The first party that Nintendo makes is what truly represents them, but they welcome third party as long as third party takes the back seat to their vison alone. Sony and MS get all the top third party titles because they work with third parties to make the consoles work well for both of their ideals.

As Bethesda said themselves on Bonus Round (on Gametrailers.com). Nintendo is to blame for the loss of certain games on their consoles because they did not take the time to prep the consoles according to not only what they had planned but what third parties had planned. Nintendo once again created an underpowered console and then asked third parties to make titles for it after, hence why you see the last gen games mainly surfacing on the console. Nintendo damned themselves.



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S.T.A.G.E. said:
VanceIX said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
VanceIX said:
Nintendo's policies on leaving out violence and sexuality is a reason they are sadly seen as children-only consoles. I personally appreciate their games, it's a fresh breath from the mindless gore and violence filling todays games.

However, it's also a reason why violent (but amazing) games like the Elder Scrolls and Fallout won't be coming to Nintendo consoles anytime soon.


Elder Scrolls isnt coming to Nintendo consoles nor fallout because no Nintendo console has ever been up to par when they launched the titles on consoles. Nintendo is a non-entity because they don't play ball with the third party who push the limits. Nintendo though loved in the 90's was considered a joke to the PC realm and not even considered a threat at all. It wasnt until Sony that the PC realm became threatened, hence the Xbox.

I agree that Nintendo consoles have always been seriously underpowered, but even with the power to match the other consoles games like the Elder Scrolls and Fallout series won't come to Nintendo's consoles because of their strict and overbearing policies towards violence. 


Third party and second party can make mature games and RPG's for Nintendos consoles. There is no barrier outside what Nintendo creates for themselves. Mass Effect 3 was on the Wii U was it not?  Nintendo doesn't make mature titles themselves and thats the way they like it. The first party that Nintendo makes is what truly represents them, but they welcome third party as long as third party takes the back seat to their vison alone. Sony and MS get all the top third party titles because they work with third parties to make the consoles work well for both of their ideals.

As Bethesda said themselves on Bonus Round (on Gametrailers.com). Nintendo is to blame for the loss of certain games on their consoles because they did not take the time to prep the consoles according to not only what they had planned but what third parties had planned. Nintendo once again created an underpowered console and then asked third parties to make titles for it after, hence why you see the last gen games mainly surfacing on the console. Nintendo damned themselves.


bethesda games are made for the PC... they are so freaking buggy and ugly that u need tons of mods to make em run and look fine.



S.T.A.G.E. said:
VanceIX said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
VanceIX said:
Nintendo's policies on leaving out violence and sexuality is a reason they are sadly seen as children-only consoles. I personally appreciate their games, it's a fresh breath from the mindless gore and violence filling todays games.

However, it's also a reason why violent (but amazing) games like the Elder Scrolls and Fallout won't be coming to Nintendo consoles anytime soon.


Elder Scrolls isnt coming to Nintendo consoles nor fallout because no Nintendo console has ever been up to par when they launched the titles on consoles. Nintendo is a non-entity because they don't play ball with the third party who push the limits. Nintendo though loved in the 90's was considered a joke to the PC realm and not even considered a threat at all. It wasnt until Sony that the PC realm became threatened, hence the Xbox.

I agree that Nintendo consoles have always been seriously underpowered, but even with the power to match the other consoles games like the Elder Scrolls and Fallout series won't come to Nintendo's consoles because of their strict and overbearing policies towards violence. 


Third party and second party can make mature games and RPG's for Nintendos consoles. There is no barrier outside what Nintendo creates for themselves. Mass Effect 3 was on the Wii U was it not?  Nintendo doesn't make mature titles themselves and thats the way they like it. The first party that Nintendo makes is what truly represents them, but they welcome third party as long as third party takes the back seat to their vison alone. Sony and MS get all the top third party titles because they work with third parties to make the consoles work well for both of their ideals.

As Bethesda said themselves on Bonus Round (on Gametrailers.com). Nintendo is to blame for the loss of certain games on their consoles because they did not take the time to prep the consoles according to not only what they had planned but what third parties had planned. Nintendo once again created an underpowered console and then asked third parties to make titles for it after, hence why you see the last gen games mainly surfacing on the console. Nintendo damned themselves.

While there are exceptions like ME3 (which itself dosen't have nearly as much violence/gore as Fallout), the fact remains that Nintendo consoles in recent years have not been very fostering for mature-rated games. 



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RolStoppable said:
fps_d0minat0r said:

I dont think you understand the situation.

Adults are able to and do play mature AND cartoony games.

Children play cartoony games but are not always able to play mature games either because retailers refuse to sell to them or their parents only buy their kids games based on age rating.

Everyone has played childrens at one time or another, but not everyone has played mature games. While there are some people who never go back to cartoony games, its pointless saying its because they like to feel grown up because the truth might just be as simple as liking more complex physics or more gore.

e.g. if you are a racing enthusiast whose played mario kart and gran turismo, but then stop playing mario kart, it doesnt mean you want to feel grown up, it means you want to drive a car or cart with physics which mario kart cant offer.

Likewise, no-one goes around labelling people who pick mario kart over GT as wanting to be kids, because they might prefer a racing experience where handling physics is not main focus of the game.

The BS that people pick games to fit a stereotype needs to stop. People do not play video games for years and years just to claim they are grown up, they do it because the level of entertainment they are getting is unmatched by anything else they have tried.

When those people state their reasons for doing so, then there's no need to speculate. The rating system of the ESRB plays a big role in this, because they call it "M for mature". This makes people who wish to be grown up sincerely believe that there is mature content in M-rated games and as adults, or wannabe adults, it becomes unthinkable for them to play anything that isn't M-rated, unless it's sports or racing, because football and cars are manly things. And as a result, they dismiss Nintendo as being for children, and children only.

Take sales2099, for example. His story is that he was a Nintendo fan, but after the GameCube he felt that Nintendo didn't want to grow up with him, so he switched to the Xbox brand and became GeneralMLD on Youtube. True story.


tbh ive seen more people state their reason for playing nintendo games because they are not mature games than mature gamers saying they dont play nintendo games because they are cartoony.

Its become unthinkable for many to accept that mature rated games can simply be better than cartoony games (im not saying all are), and instead go around making excuses about how people have limited their content to just mature games.

and this goes back to the previous point I made, more mature gamers play cartoony games than kids play mature games. mature gamers ARE playing a wider range of games than kids, so its just a non issue which you are blowing out of proportion.

If some people like sales2099 dont feel nintendo offer similar content to that found in other games and therefore he does play then whats the problem with that? Its nintendo's fault for making too many of the same type of games. They are the ones limiting their own appeal. Not everyone HAS to like cartoony games, and the reason isnt because they are cartoony, its often related with the satisfaction gained from the game. It doesnt take very long before jumping on an enemy to watch them disappear gets boring, eventually people seek games where there are better animations, more interactivity, and so on.



VanceIX said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
VanceIX said:
Nintendo's policies on leaving out violence and sexuality is a reason they are sadly seen as children-only consoles. I personally appreciate their games, it's a fresh breath from the mindless gore and violence filling todays games.

However, it's also a reason why violent (but amazing) games like the Elder Scrolls and Fallout won't be coming to Nintendo consoles anytime soon.


Elder Scrolls isnt coming to Nintendo consoles nor fallout because no Nintendo console has ever been up to par when they launched the titles on consoles. Nintendo is a non-entity because they don't play ball with the third party who push the limits. Nintendo though loved in the 90's was considered a joke to the PC realm and not even considered a threat at all. It wasnt until Sony that the PC realm became threatened, hence the Xbox.

I agree that Nintendo consoles have always been seriously underpowered, but even with the power to match the other consoles games like the Elder Scrolls and Fallout series won't come to Nintendo's consoles because of their strict and overbearing policies towards violence. 

resident evil 4 was on gamecube and wii, so how does nintedno have strict policies on violence?



iceland said:
Maybe it's because Nintendo actually promotes their consoles as such?


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