| Dr.Henry_Killinger said: Let's just air this all out in the open shall we: Systematic Bias against Nintendo in the videogame market is easy to see is your claim. Your evidence: Is various developer statements despite the fact that many publisher can overwrite developer decisions. E.G. Respawn wanted to develop for one platform, EA released the game on 3. Regardless of what these devs say, how exactly do you know whether these are the reason the wii u is not getting ports? How do you know whether any of these claims are either false or true. Especially, concerning last gen as many multiplats that made it to the Wii were significantly downgraded. But they still were ported to the Wii despite its lower end hardware. Obviously that Anti-Nintendo bias wasn't enough to stop them then. Furthemore, you claim that the Wii U's free year was its only year on the market. Despite the fact, that it was competing with PS360, consoles that we're not only much cheaper but much better understood then the Wii U. Nintendo designed the system the way they wanted, which was why they didn't get the fcking memo that nobody uses PowerPC any more. Why would third parties take a risk on a system whose power they would only be able to understand after PS4/xb1. As I've already told you, just because a decission is not made based on rational though, but rather on an illusion of rational thought clouded by bias, doesn't mean that decission is not 'right'. What are you arbitrarily defining as right? Pro-Nintendo? Can Nintendo do no wrong? None of that is objective, so it is useless insofar as analysis goes. We are talking about biases which are strong enough to harm to company that has them. If you bring an impartial observer who know nothing about gaming, how in the hell would they know that 3rd parties were biased against Nintendo if the decision to refuse porting was made out of bias/fear/or any other irrational idea if it is in fact rational to avoid the system? Did it turn out to be the right decission? yes. Was it a rational decission? No. It was a decission built on bias and assumption, and quite possibly a uniform bias that created a self reinforcing feedback loop. How do you know this? Surely, its not proven by your inconclusive evidence? You can't possibly be trying to argue bias from a clearly biased point of view. You will prove nothing this way, only air out your frustations and leave having learned nothing or improved at all. If you are not objective, then how can you call out companies for being biased against Nintendo when the only thing you can see are the Nintendo Googles plastered to your eyes. Obviously, you do not understand my biases because you incorrectly assume that I am biased against Nintendo, because I am disagreeing with your method of analysis. NOT your assertion. I have never said, 3rd parties have no bias for or against Nintendo. Simply, that unless you prove it, which you refuse to do because you cannot comprehend how any doubt could possibly exist, your claim is unverified. Prove it. Show me the bias that is strong enough to make a company harm themselves just to spite Nintendo. All the money, they lost ignoring the Wii U while removing the porting and advertising costs. If you find 1 example, this is enough to disprove the counterargument. However, your claim is not the contrapositive of such a 3rd parties being biased in favor of Nintendo, so it cannot be proven with contradiction. 1 example contradicting your claim is enough to disprove it as well. You can chose to ramble as much as you like try as you might to utilize your biases to teardown my objective argument. It is futile however, I am simply repeating myself so that you understand, my stance has not changed at all. If a decision benfits the company, regardless of whatever the decision consisted of whether or not it was rational thought, bias, fear, some combination of these things, it is impossible to prove unless you where actually in those boardrooms. If a decision harms a company, then any rational thought was wrong, and only then biases and fear come to the surface and can be observed by an outsider. |
Please consider this short list of assumptions and biases in your post that are getting away of what you are trying to say:
1. That there is a systematic bias against Nintendo in the video game industry doesn't mean that all actors in the market are biased against Nintendo
2. Your assumption that I think a decission is wrong if it goes against the interests of Nintendo
3. Your assumption that if a decission can not be proven to be harmful to the company, it can't be said to have been biased
4. Your failure to consider the examples of bias that has already been provided in this thread by myself and others.
5. Your incorrect assumptions on how my personal bias relates to what you are trying to say.
I'll make this real easy:
You either accept that bias plays a part in every single decission that is made in any company or individual in the world at any time, or you hold on to the classic economy theory that the market is made up of rational agents acting in their best interest. The past 20 years has shown that the classic understanding of the market is incorrect, in fact recent research shows that even our very perception of things are highly subject to bias. It is inescapable. Even when people think they are crunching all the right numbers and doing all the right analysis to make a decission, the methods they use and what they see in the results, even what they remember is colored by bias. The best we can hope to do is to accept that we are biased and realize that we can not make a perfectly rational decission ever. There is the core of our discord, you are arguing based of a classical understanding of the market, but that understanding is pretty much outdated.
So, in my dealings here I assume the exsistence of bias in every company as an axiomatic truth. Bias exsists, and it exsist at all levels of decission making. I haven't even bothered to engage you in the fruitless effort to try to claim that you have to show that a decission is subooptimal to prove that it exsists, that work is already done many times over and is clearly available for anyone to find. It has even been referenced for you earlier in the thread.
Considering this, it's not hard to see that there exsist a systematic Nintendo bias in the videogame industry, from consumer to media outlets to publishers to developers there are clear anti Nintendo biases. Just to make this very easy for comprehansion, there are also segments of the same market that have a pro Nintendo bias. You can keep pretending that you need proof of this, but you won't get it from me. I know that you already have all the information available to you needed to see it, I would even guess that you have frequently discussed the various expressions of bias from developers many times on these forums.






















