The only thing that has changed is now the PS4 and Wii U have more sales from the start, X1 is outselling Wii U so it can catch up evetually, but its mathmatically impossible for the X1 to pass the PS4 while the PS4 is outselling it.

4 + 4> 1 + 1

So you think XB1 will sell 130m consoles?

I want the X1 to hurry and close the gap so we can have good competition.

It's funny that people keep using these overall numbers, just so they can ignore the declining sales these past few months.  As I pointed out in another thread, the 360 of 2013 has 700K over the One sales for this year, and the 360 for the year only went on to sell 5.8M.  One did have a really good launch, but like the Wii U, things are definitely not well, recently.  MS will soon drop the X% over 360, as the launch 360 will start catching up as the months go on.

Yup, 60% more than 360 sales is irrelevant because 360 was a long legged build up steam type beast. XB1 was a huge front loaded (like Wii U) with declining sales so far (like Wii U). That 60% lead will vanish quickly in my opinion and I can see the XB1 dropping pretty close to Wii U's base line of last year(maybe not so drastic and only thanks to US). Especially when you consider they have a MUCH MUCH higher price tag, they aren't launched in Japan(even though that wouldn't help MS but it did help Nintendos base line.), they are pretty much rejected in Europe and their biggest game of the forseeable future has already been launched.

A sales gap means there won't be good competition?

I think history has shown MS and Sony are at their best when trailing behind and/or worried about the competition.

Nope, large sales gaps lead to decisions like the PS3 and X1 launches.

I had a 360 and I noticed how MS abadoned the console as well. It sucked watch PS3 owners getting two new IPs while the last new IP I got was in 2010 which was awesome loved Alan Wake.

It sucked because I suspected they did the same with the xbox but couldn't remember as I was a PC gamer at the time.

All I want is LOD 2

I disagree, I think history has shown that learning from past mistakes is more important then hustling to get ahead.

PS2 got the jump on the competiton, was the most powerful when it released and featured dvd playback an improvment over the paltry media capabilities of the previous system. Nintendo learned from Gamecube that third party success was less important then growing the market place so they tailored their machine to ensure that they could make the games they wanted and gambled on motion controls attempting to make them accessible to everyone and thus attract the casuals. MS learned the importance of being first and of lowering entry price so they peripheralized a lot of their hardware and released a year earlier then the competiton, they also took a page from the ps2's playbook and got the multiplat support it used to get to the top. The PS3 was following the ken kutaragi mindset of make the most powerful console with the most exotic architecture and force developers to focus on Sony. All of that backfired however, and Sony was forced to fund to focus on exclusives. As the market leader, they didn't learn that much because the ken kutaragi model worked for the ps2.

The PS4, XB1, and Wii U are all culminations of everything these companies have learned up to this point.

If anything, the massive debt that Sony has accumulated puts them in a worse position then Microsoft. Clearly, the layoffs and restructing that has been going on since last gen has shown they are serious.

Its naive to think that Sony isn't worried about the competition as they are still feeling the effects of last gen, I doubt they would forget because of a measely 2.8 mil gap.