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kupomogli said:


Or it could be other things. Like how support for the 360 practically dropped off after three years


Can you explain to me how "support" for the X360 dropped off after 3 years?   

1. Regular system updates still hit the X360.   Have even been some big changes in just the past 2 years (several years into the device).

2. New apps and new games come out on regular basis.  

3. I have no idea what you are talking about.



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Predictions on 12/01/15 - Generation 8 Totals:

PS4: 85-95m
X1: 55-65m
WiiU: 20-30m

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cpg716 said:
kupomogli said:


Or it could be other things. Like how support for the 360 practically dropped off after three years


Can you explain to me how "support" for the X360 dropped off after 3 years?   

1. Regular system updates still hit the X360.   Have even been some big changes in just the past 2 years (several years into the device).

2. New apps and new games come out on regular basis.  

3. I have no idea what you are talking about.

 



Something allot of people keep forgetting thouge is that ALLOT of country's dont have the xb1 yet.
But i highly doubt that that wil get the xb1 in the lead since microseft has said that it wont launch until this holiday season.
And by that time, allot of people who want a 8th gen console wil already have a ps4.



fps_d0minat0r -

Your chart shows a difference of 6 games.. between the 2 consoles.. 6..



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Predictions on 12/01/15 - Generation 8 Totals:

PS4: 85-95m
X1: 55-65m
WiiU: 20-30m

cpg716 said:
fps_d0minat0r -

Your chart shows a difference of 6 games.. between the 2 consoles.. 6..


way to miss the point of his chart... look under and see how many were kinect games / move games.

then compare that to the list of 'proper' games



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And how do you call what Nintendo has? :p

Nah talking seriously, just wait for a big exclusive to release on ps4 (infamous was a small one) and you'll see the meaning of sales.



setsunatenshi said:
cpg716 said:
fps_d0minat0r -

Your chart shows a difference of 6 games.. between the 2 consoles.. 6..


way to miss the point of his chart... look under and see how many were kinect games / move games.

then compare that to the list of 'proper' games

Not missing the point.. the Kinect sold 25 million units..    and ALL of those games are NOT Kinect only.. they had Kinect SUPPORT..         Still proves my point.. Microsoft did NOT drop support for their console..   and the difference was 6 games... 



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Predictions on 12/01/15 - Generation 8 Totals:

PS4: 85-95m
X1: 55-65m
WiiU: 20-30m

cpg716 said:
setsunatenshi said:
cpg716 said:
fps_d0minat0r -

Your chart shows a difference of 6 games.. between the 2 consoles.. 6..


way to miss the point of his chart... look under and see how many were kinect games / move games.

then compare that to the list of 'proper' games

Not missing the point.. the Kinect sold 25 million units..    and ALL of those games are NOT Kinect only.. they had Kinect SUPPORT..         Still proves my point.. Microsoft did NOT drop support for their console..   and the difference was 6 games... 


erm, sorry but I think you need to check the list. those are Kinnect games, kinnect wasn't optional on most of them for sure. maybe i'm missing a couple, but dance central series, kinnect sports series, kinnectimals, kinnect training, ultimate workout, your shape fitness, dance paradise, kung fu, etc etc...

if you don't see how that's dropping the support for 'real' games, then I think you're being desingenuous



[NEG]kiliandj said:
Something allot of people keep forgetting thouge is that ALLOT of country's dont have the xb1 yet.
But i highly doubt that that wil get the xb1 in the lead since microseft has said that it wont launch until this holiday season.
And by that time, allot of people who want a 8th gen console wil already have a ps4.


So. Is that how it worked last generation. You know.. when the Wii & PS3 released a FULL year after the X360? How did that work out... Oh yeah.. the PS3 and Wii  ended up selling more consoles then the X360...     ?     



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Predictions on 12/01/15 - Generation 8 Totals:

PS4: 85-95m
X1: 55-65m
WiiU: 20-30m

Microsoft do have a problem here, but it'll be a really hard one to fix because of all the elements involved;

- There have been so many articles comparing the One's 720p to the PS4's 1080p that everyone's aware that the PS4 is the better hardware, getting the better ports.
- PS+ offers infinitely more value than Xbox Live Gold.
- Trust in MS is at a low, given how they abandoned their core audience to chase Kinect for four years, so a lot of people have already gone with PS4 instead.
- Their only two announced holiday season games are new IPs, and they've hardly seen the light of day so far and have built no hype at all.
- For every month the PS4 dominates, there'll be a huge amount of people that then buy more PS4s just to be able to play games with their friends, causing PS4 sales to skyrocket even further, and those people likely won't rush to get an Xbox One as well.

Now, everyone's so quick to say "Drop Kinect and knock off $100!" but even then, you're left with a console that's the same price as a PS4, only it doesn't run its games as well. So people would still just buy a PS4. Microsoft would need a HUGE price cut in order to make any difference, and even then, what's to stop Sony doing the same and beating them in price again anyway?

The only thing Microsoft can do is make the case with games and try to earn back peoples' trust. Come out at E3 and bring footage of Halo 5, Fable Legends and whatever exclusive content their can get their hands on.