Forums - Microsoft Discussion - Post NPD fallout: The central question imo is if a X1 that was cheaper than PS4 would outsell PS4

BeElite said:
VanceIX said:
At $350, it would match sales. At $300, it would win NA and UK by a landslide.

Even at 300 it really wouldnt, it would eak out a win (55%ish) but no landslide ever.

Lack other advantages for a landslide, just look at what it took for 360 to do it.

360 handidly won the US for a while, and has still sold more units in NA and UK than the PS3. If MS cut the One's price by $200, I could see it selling 50% more than the PS4 in NA, easily. 



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Fusioncode said:
kowenicki said:
Just US presumably?

If they would have launched at the same price then the ONE would be wining. Its obvious.

Jesus, there is only 10% between them in sales in the US, it would easily be ahead.

But they didn't and so this is pointless.

Actually it isn't so "obvious". The Xbone was $450 with a free $60 game bundled. A PS4 with a new game costs $460. If price was the only factor then XBO would have won March's NPD results. The fact that the Xbone didn't even come close should be telling that there are multiple reasons as to why PS4 is ahead. 


Exactly.  Nothing is black and white peope.  You don't lose your biggest market overnight for 1 reason...



VanceIX said:
BeElite said:
VanceIX said:
At $350, it would match sales. At $300, it would win NA and UK by a landslide.

Even at 300 it really wouldnt, it would eak out a win (55%ish) but no landslide ever.

Lack other advantages for a landslide, just look at what it took for 360 to do it.

360 handidly won the US for a while, and has still sold more units in NA and UK than the PS3. If MS cut the One's price by $200, I could see it selling 50% more than the PS4 in NA, easily. 


Alot of people saw X1 winning March ndp and PS4 sales dropping after xmas, then Jan then feb then march and so on and so on. There would be nothing easy about it, just casue you seedoes not make anything about the outcome at all realistic.

360 had a few other thing go right for it X1 does not even if they fixed the price issue and had a sku going for 299.99

PS3 was over priced as fuck, PS4 is not
360 had the better 3rd party games, now its reversed.
360 had more games, now its reversed.
360 was easy to dev on PS3 was a bitch, even this has reversed this gen.
360 had a years head start, X1 does not.
And the biggest was Sony own giant early fuck up, something revresed this gen.



LordLichtenstein said:






nice chart!!



In the US ,likely

WW, no way. Microsoft's problems go beyond the price tag.



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manny10032 said:
LordLichtenstein said:






nice chart!!


Thanks :)

When you look at that chart, it is really hard to see how Microsoft will turn things around. 



Nate4Drake said:
In the Global there is NO WAY Xbone could outsell PS4. Also, if you drop Kinect, in the end what do you have ?! A weaker piece of hardware without Kinect. How can you compete with PS4 ? With Kinect al least you can say hey 'we have Kinect included', we might spend 100$ more, for the ones interested. Without Kinect ? What do you have ? Why you should buy an Xbone ? I mean, apart from Halo and Forza hot fans. With 360 was different, multiplatform games were better for the majority, it was cheaper, great graphics, and better shooters. Now, also shooters will be better on PS4 (as any other multiplatform game), Call of Duty, Battlefield, Destiny, etc, will be better on PS4.
MS could just cut the price of the whole package, or release the box without Kinect. Whatever you do, they will lose money for a temporary boost, and down again, below PS4. MS did a BIG mistake with this One, most of all considering it is coming after the 'perfect' 360.


A lot of people really believe the Kinect is a tool used to spy on them. I wonder if This belief is even stronger outside the US.



askel50 said:

A $349 SKU will easily outsell PS4 in US and UK and with a good margin. They are already head to head now. That is enough for them I think. And let's be real. The wiiU path is very different, X1 sales were never bad in absolute terms like the wiiU one have been for a long time. They are going to surpass the wiiU later this year despite releasing later.


There head to head only after releasing their biggest game they had this year..otherwise they are FAR behind. 



BeElite said:
VanceIX said:
BeElite said:
VanceIX said:
At $350, it would match sales. At $300, it would win NA and UK by a landslide.

Even at 300 it really wouldnt, it would eak out a win (55%ish) but no landslide ever.

Lack other advantages for a landslide, just look at what it took for 360 to do it.

360 handidly won the US for a while, and has still sold more units in NA and UK than the PS3. If MS cut the One's price by $200, I could see it selling 50% more than the PS4 in NA, easily. 


Alot of people saw X1 winning March ndp and PS4 sales dropping after xmas, then Jan then feb then march and so on and so on. There would be nothing easy about it, just casue you seedoes not make anything about the outcome at all realistic.

360 had a few other thing go right for it X1 does not even if they fixed the price issue and had a sku going for 299.99

PS3 was over priced as fuck, PS4 is not
360 had the better 3rd party games, now its reversed.
360 had more games, now its reversed.
360 was easy to dev on PS3 was a bitch, even this has reversed this gen.
360 had a years head start, X1 does not.
And the biggest was Sony own giant early fuck up, something revresed this gen.

You don't think a $200 price drop would help the Xbox One? They have been relatively close in NA, so a major price drop would easily help push it ahead.



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VanceIX said:

You don't think a $200 price drop would help the Xbox One? They have been relatively close in NA, so a major price drop would easily help push it ahead.

2-1 in jan, and 60k down even with $450 TF bundle and mass marketing is not close in any stretch of the imagination.