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Didn't the UK just get a price drop for the X1?



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think-man said:
Didn't the UK just get a price drop for the X1?

Yep.   this is why.   But PS4 outsold Xbone in the global buy a factor of 2.5 !!!  And continue to squash Xbone in Europe by a factor of 4:1 / 5:1.



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All VGC did was this equation  6 mil = (X(NA Sales)+Y(EU Sales)) + Z (Japan, Media Create)

VGC Knew 2 of the variables and made X and Y fit the equation. The problem is multifold. One being there is a low probability that the PS4 is RIGHT at 6 mil. Most likely it is safely over 6 mil or else Sony would have waited 1 more week to ensure they were not jumping the gun. The real issue is what will happen when NDP is released and PS4 is undertracked by say, 100k for FEB. What will happen is since the assumption is that PS4= 6 mil at this date they will simply deduct the numbers from EU to make the above equation still fit, which could lead to more undertracking because they will adjust their variables to that new number.



End of 2009 Predictions (Set, January 1st 2009)

Wii- 72 million   3rd Year Peak, better slate of releases

360- 37 million   Should trend down slightly after 3rd year peak

PS3- 29 million  Sales should pick up next year, 3rd year peak and price cut

Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
Hold on wait a minute,how exactly was Xbox One's Launch bad by any means? This whole idea of a turn around is ludicrous because the only reason Xbox is doing all of these actions to drive up the value of their console, is because the Playstation is trending above the Wii right now.

Have you seen the Europe and Rest of World sales? It's not a pretty picture, and that's from day 1. PS4's record sales isn't happening in a vaccuum, a decent proportion of PS4 sales are happening at the expense of Xb one. It's only the USA that gives Xb one any measure of respectability in sales, and that measure of respectability stopped on 31 December 2013. Sure I think 3 million by 31 Dec 2013 was in line with expectations. But I think MS expected to be able to announce 4 million sold to consumers well before TF's launch. Now they are relying on TF to get Xb one over the 4 million hump, which Sony passed back in 2013. 2014 sales for PS4 ~2 million, 2014 sales for Xb one ~600K, 2014 sales for WiiU ~400K.

If Xb one sales were tracking according to MS expectations MS wouldn't be doing jack to try to increase the perceived value of the console. They wouldn't be bundling their premier title for free, and they wouldn't be officially cutting the price in the UK. You do that because sales are below expectations, hence the need to turn around those sales figures to bring them up to expectations (at least).

It may not be full on panic stations yet, but to think everything is OK with Xb one is delusional.



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binary solo said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
Hold on wait a minute,how exactly was Xbox One's Launch bad by any means? This whole idea of a turn around is ludicrous because the only reason Xbox is doing all of these actions to drive up the value of their console, is because the Playstation is trending above the Wii right now.

Have you seen the Europe and Rest of World sales? It's not a pretty picture, and that's from day 1. PS4's record sales isn't happening in a vaccuum, a decent proportion of PS4 sales are happening at the expense of Xb one. It's only the USA that gives Xb one any measure of respectability in sales, and that measure of respectability stopped on 31 December 2013. Sure I think 3 million by 31 Dec 2013 was in line with expectations. But I think MS expected to be able to announce 4 million sold to consumers well before TF's launch. Now they are relying on TF to get Xb one over the 4 million hump, which Sony passed back in 2013. 2014 sales for PS4 ~2 million, 2014 sales for Xb one ~600K, 2014 sales for WiiU ~400K.

If Xb one sales were tracking according to MS expectations MS wouldn't be doing jack to try to increase the perceived value of the console. They wouldn't be bundling their premier title for free, and they wouldn't be officially cutting the price in the UK. You do that because sales are below expectations, hence the need to turn around those sales figures to bring them up to expectations (at least).

It may not be full on panic stations yet, but to think everything is OK with Xb one is delusional.

I was considering the drop to be post launch.



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