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Forums - Sales Discussion - Uncharted is now a bigger IP Than Zelda

DanneSandin on 15 January 2014
TruckOSaurus said:
DanneSandin said:
TruckOSaurus said:

The Tomb Raider reboot definitely has some Uncharted influences.

Actually, Uncharted definitely has some Tomb Raider influences. The original Tomb Raiders had a far larger impact on the industry than UC has had in this day and age.

Of course, but I did say Tomb Raider Reboot, not Tomb Raider series. It's a really funny dynamic when you think about.

Tomb Raider thrived in the PS1 days, declined in the PS2 days. On PS3, Uncharted took inspiration from the Tomb Raider series but added it's own thing and the genre thrived again, then Tomb Raider borrowed from Uncharted to make the most successful TR game in a long time (not successful enough for SquareEnix of course but that's another topic).

Yeah, that is actually a funny dynamic :P I just think it's not right to say that the TR reboot has some UC influences when the whole UC concept is taken straight from TR (and Indiana Jones).



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LiquorandGunFun on 15 January 2014

Both are great, zelda has more wear on it and less new things to show, uncharted is always an adventure.



 

Ucell on 15 January 2014
DanneSandin said:
Ucell said:
DanneSandin said:
VitroBahllee said:
"To be fair, I left out the best selling new Zelda game that has only been out for a month and a half, and tons of sales of Twilight Princess on another platform, and the bundled Wind Waker HD, but included bundled Uncharted versions.... not to mention that I left out the first 20 years of Zelda games."

What the heck is fair about any of those arbitrary decisions? Wait: they aren't arbitrary. They are designed to give more credit to Uncharted.

Can't you just say 'Uncharted is the fastest-growing 1st party new IP of the last generation," which would have been true and is an awesome achievement, without stooping to ridiculous comparisons you aren't even actually making with all your omissions and goal-post moving?

That I can almost agree on! Except... The Wii franchise... But other than that! Well, maybe Forza... But other than THAT!


Certainly not Forza.

I actually don't know how much Forza average in terms of sale and metacritic, I just thought I'd throw it in there because Xbox fans are fast to hail it as a bigger franchise than Gran Turismo - and GT being a bigger franchise than UC...

Haha. Bigger than GT? Gotta be joking.

Forza 3 is the best selling in the series at 5.39 million units followed by FM4 at 4.13 million units, FM2 at just above 3 million, FM at over 1 milion and FM5 at below a million.

GT 5 has sold nearly 11 million units by comparison. Although Forza games have higher Metacritic averages.



d21lewis on 15 January 2014
Boutros said:

It was actually as simple of a point there is. Neither Twilight Princess nor Skyward Sword are innovative. What's the hard part? lol

I could push my reasoning but your attitude doesn't invite further discussion. Call me when you're sober.


You don't think Skyward Sword was innovative?



Carl on 15 January 2014
aikohualda said:

i really think they have to consistently sell like that at least 3 generations.... 2 generations is just not enough

and considering it is naughty dog on sony... they like to exhaust an ip in one generation....

crash on PS

jax on PS2

and possible uncharted on PS3


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SnJPTkrD7o

Uncharted PS4 has already been confirmed.



                            

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rik on 15 January 2014

Ok surely we should compare psp and vita vs ds and 3ds and maybe n64, gc and wii vs ps3 would that not be fairer?


Yes I know 3 consoles vs ps3 but hey op decided to set a 30 yr old franchise against a 7 year franchise and pick and choose which zelda to use. I picked n64 gc and wii cos they are fairly recent(ish)

But thread as awhole is pointless we all know it zelda and so did op he just wanted some attention bless him



rik on 15 January 2014

Ok surely we should compare psp and vita vs ds and 3ds and maybe n64, gc and wii vs ps3 would that not be fairer?


Yes I know 3 consoles vs ps3 but hey op decided to set a 30 yr old franchise against a 7 year franchise and pick and choose which zelda to use. I picked n64 gc and wii cos they are fairly recent(ish)

But thread as awhole is pointless we all know it zelda and so did op he just wanted some attention bless him



FarleyMcFirefly on 15 January 2014
gigaSheik said:
Come back when Uncharted is 30 years old.


This!

I doubt this series will last generations and leave a legacy like the Zelda series.



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aikohualda on 15 January 2014
Carl2291 said:
aikohualda said:

i really think they have to consistently sell like that at least 3 generations.... 2 generations is just not enough

and considering it is naughty dog on sony... they like to exhaust an ip in one generation....

crash on PS

jax on PS2

and possible uncharted on PS3


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SnJPTkrD7o

Uncharted PS4 has already been confirmed.

lets hope they will continue to push it at least 1 game per gen....



 

DanneSandin on 15 January 2014
Ucell said:
DanneSandin said:

I actually don't know how much Forza average in terms of sale and metacritic, I just thought I'd throw it in there because Xbox fans are fast to hail it as a bigger franchise than Gran Turismo - and GT being a bigger franchise than UC...

Haha. Bigger than GT? Gotta be joking.

Forza 3 is the best selling in the series at 5.39 million units followed by FM4 at 4.13 million units, FM2 at just above 3 million, FM at over 1 milion and FM5 at below a million.

GT 5 has sold nearly 11 million units by comparison. Although Forza games have higher Metacritic averages.

Oh, I think you missunderstand me =) I'M not saying Forza > GT! I said that that's what (certain) Xbox fans are saying. Not me =) I'm with you that GT > Forza



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