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MikeRox said:
So were the GCN/XB/PS2 SD Triplets?


Nah, PS2 had a far superior library compared to the XBOX and GC. GC had its great first party line up. And XBOX was meh. People credit it with the first FPS that was actually good on a console, but I don't care for FPS, so that's that. 



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RolStoppable said:
orniletter said:

I´m corious: How much did GBA games cost in Austria back then ?

I have to pay 40€ for my 3DS games, they were 45 at the beginning, but everything is down to 40 again.

GBA games were 40€ here in Germany.

...so my situation has changed...for the better !

First party for GBA was €40, third party €50. One reason why I hardly bought any third party games for my GBA; the other that first party games were of higher quality. Getting rid of the cartridges with the DS brought the prices for third party software down, so yeah, things have gotten better and stayed pretty much the same since then.

Similar story for Wii; whereas any GC game was €60 (and in the later stages €50 or even just €40), Wii first party software was €45 and third party games commonly €50 (many companies started at €60 though). With Wii U the prices jumped back up to €60, and third parties didn't shy away from charging €70. Nintendo seems to start moving into the opposite direction again though.

Man, that is rough



RolStoppable said:

No, Carl, that's not the point here. The question is why does the Wii U get shunned harder in the UK than in the rest of Europe. That Wii Sports/Wii Fit stuff you talk about also holds true for Germany, France and all the other countries, so it can't really be the reason for the difference between the UK and the rest of Europe.

Regarding Kinect, how much was the PS3 up during the same two years?

As for tablet games, that doesn't even make sense. Originally you said that people who wanted to play tablet games already owned a tablet. Now you are saying that you didn't mean touchscreen games. But that means that tablets can't substitute the Gamepad, because we are talking about different kinds of games. So the point you want to put forward actually has to be that people don't give a damn about off-screen play.

And regarding the stores, I guess I am going to get different anecdotal evidence. Not much to conclude from that.


I wouldnt really say the Wii U is being shunned more in the UK than it is anywhere else after looking at data. I dont think thats as clear cut as Seece makes it sound. Looking at the charts, the Wii U has sold more in the UK than it has in Germany with software being rather similar. France is above the UK on software and hardware. 1 in 5 Wii U systems bought in Europe have been bought in the UK. 1 in 5 Wii U games bought in Europe this Week were bought in the UK. More Wii Us sold in the UK this Week than in France. 

The Wii U is being shunned everywhere. I dont think its really fair to say that the UK is the odd one out.

The PS3 was up in 2010 by 11%, feeding on the boost from the Slim/Cut combo of '09 and GT5 in November. It was up by a further 18% in 2011 due to another pricecut at Gamescom. 

With the whole tablet thing I really should have worded it all better. Ive been rushing and hardly at the computer. I apologize.

I was more meaning to say that the people who are interested in playing games on a small screen in their hands already have that. Its not just your traditional tablet games like the afformentioned Angry Birds and Candy Crush but the likes of Final Fantasy and Infinity Blade. You can play the same franchises on Nintendo handhelds and Sony handhelds. They arent going to go out and pay another lump sum to play Nintendo games on a Nintendo tablet controller. Its not that important to them. They already have the experience a tablet controller would give on so many different devices available to them. Playing games off the big screen isnt appealing, because its already the norm. The Wii U Gamepad is 3/4 Years too late, the novelty has worn off.

Thats Grainger Games, a store which also has clear signing for the platforms.

Another one for Game, though this one isnt UK based the stores are largely set out the same with clear signing for the platforms.


If you go to a Supermarket, youre more likely to find something like this -

A Nintendo section, rather than split sections for platforms, because its a Supermarket wanting to save space. This is where confusion would arise for the consumer. 3DS had problems with identity and we got "This is not DS, this is Nintendo 3DS" adverts from Nintendo, Im honestly surprised that after 12 Months we aint had "This is not Wii, this is Nintendo Wii U" adverts yet if the identity crisis is still ongoing.



                            

FinalFantasyXIII said:

Samus Aran said: There's nothing crappy about Pikmin 3, Zelda: wind waker HD(I'm sure there's lot's of British people out there who haven't played it yet), Super Mario 3D World and Rayman Legends. 

Oh I beg to differ, they're all oldschool rehashes with a minor bit of shiney wax added. They have Miyamoto, his students and a couple other developers and that's it. They also will have sub standard multiplat titles compared to teh PS4 that is undeniable. Sorry to break the news.

But I guess they prefer to play Knack and Killzone? 

Try all current best versions of Sports titles, FPSers, inFAMOUS, Resogun, best versions of AC4, Lego MSH, Injustice, NFS series games, best versions of upcoming games FFXV, Child of Light, The Evil Within, the next Uncharted maybe a sequel to TLoU since it has been named GOtY all over the internets. Best versions of every LEGO game to come out, best version of Watchdogs....I could just go on and on. Tomb Raider DE and its sequel, Metal Gear Solid 5, Elder Scrolls Online, Mighty #9, Kingdom Herts 3...yeah and another Killzone hee hee.  PSN Network > Wii U VC network comon man, get real it's over for the Wii U. The next Ni No Kuni, Tales games to come...etc. PS4 all the way.

Best versions! Best Versions!

Best on what? They have extra levels? extra bosses? extra story? Oh i got it, better graphics.... That don't really make it best on anything, it is the same game.

 

In the end, if you have a PS3 or a PC, you are buying PS4 for InFamous, Drive Club, Resogun, The Order and FFXV (it is on XONE too, but let's ignore that), in the same way i am buying WiiU for SM3DW, Pikmin3, WWHD, W101, SMTxFE, X, SMB, MK8, Bayo2, DK:TF and HW. Than it goes to personal taste.



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I think some people don't appreciate just how little advertising the WiiU has been getting in the UK- I don't mean just a little, I mean literally I can't remember ever seeing a WiiU TV advertisement before. WiiU is also too expensive, especially when compared to the Wii (about 3 times as expensive)



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Seece said:
kowenicki said:
Smartphones and tablets have a bigger audience here than just about anywhere on the planet if I'm not mistaken.

Thats it.

Really? That's interesting, wonder why?


Possibly due to UK gaming history being less orientated towards consoles. The first majorly successful console was PlayStation, but before that, home computer systems ruled the roost. I'd hypothesise tablets/smartphones are closer to that kind of gaming than anything else. Nintendo haven't had historical strength or success in the UK, like they have in Japan/North America in particular, which keeps different generations buying their hardware/software, so they've struggled in the UK relative to other markets. Particularly when you consider much of Wii and DS's success in the UK came from new titles like Wii Fit, Just Dance, Wii Sports, Brain Training, Professor Layton and Nintendogs. 

The market for Nintendo machines in the UK, I would suggest, is more in line with what Nintendo's expanded audience wanted, because Nintendo don't have much of a core audience here.



vkaraujo said:
FinalFantasyXIII said:

Best versions of every LEGO game to come out, best version of Watchdogs....I could just go on and on. Tomb Raider DE and its sequel, Metal Gear Solid 5, Elder Scrolls Online, Mighty #9, Kingdom Herts 3...yeah and another Killzone hee hee.  PSN Network > Wii U VC network comon man, get real it's over for the Wii U. The next Ni No Kuni, Tales games to come...etc. PS4 all the way.

Best versions! Best Versions!

Best on what? They have extra levels? extra bosses? extra story? Oh i got it, better graphics.... That don't really make it best on anything

If everything else is the same in all versions, it does.