Can 3DS outsell PSP (lifetime)?

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Pristine20 on 11 January 2014

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3DS, easily too. PSP has done great though on the hardware side. 80 million is no simple feat.

^This. For a console that was considered "dead" for most of it's life (from a U.S. perspective), I'm surprised at it's lifetime sales lol.

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benji232 on 11 January 2014

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October+November+December global data = more then 7.6m units sold. Shipments are usually higher then sell-through data. 1.4M units sitting on storeshelves is far from impossible.

It's overtracked.

NPD shows around 2.2m, Mediacreate shows around 1.7m, Europe will be on par with US so 2.2m, the rest of the world accounts for 10% of those sales combined. Total comes to 6.7m.

You're assuming Europe will be equal to the US when the past has always proven otherwise. DS sold a lot more in Europe then they did in the US. Also, when I calculate, we only have it overtracked by 200k in the US which still puts it at 7.4m. May I ask you again, where are you taking those figures except a bunch of assumptions for Europe and "others" and the rest of America.

Anyways, we'll know the figures in 18 days. I am not saying that I'm stating facts, I'm merely stating my opinion here. If we really do have it overtracked by 1m like you're suggesting, then your 7-8m figure for Q4 might be right.

3DS is not DS. Take a look at this - http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2013/131030e.pdf

3DS LTD as of September 30th

Americas - 11.43m
Others - 10.22m

Others = Europe and everywhere else.
Americas = US and NA/SA.

You could argue which is bigger, the fact is they're neck and neck and US is probably a better market for 3DS than Europe. Case in point the previous 6 months Americas outshipped Others by 240k. (1.17m to 0.97m).

Also using US, Europe and Japan you can guage (and have been able to for a long time) that every other market makes up 10% of 3DS sales.

So I reiterate.

US is at 2.2m (thanks to NPD we know this), Europe is probably the same, Japan is 1.7m. Plus the 10% elsewhere. The sales are around 6.7m it could fluctuate either way a couple hundred k.

Also like I just said, bare in mind there was stock on shelves end of September. Probably 1m+, of which are part of that 6.7m. So saying you predict 9m shipped is saying you think there is 3.3m on shelves/warehouses.

9m - 6.7m =/= 3.3m lol. But you even said: "it could fluctuate either way a couple hundred k." meaning that let's say the couple hundred K is above 6.7m and brings it to 7m, were still looking at a 8-8.5m figure.

But anyways, their financial results will be revealed in a matter of days, it's useless to argue over estimates when we will know official numbers in merely 18days.

Did you read what I said? There was already 1m on shelves going into the holiday, so Nintendo essentially sold 5.7m~ of the stock they shipped in Q4. Thus if you think they shipped 9m, they have 3.3m on shelves/warehouses. Get it now?

I'm not sure why they're going to ship an extra 1.5m 3DS's, that's a lot.

My apologies, it is pretty late here so I'm a bit slow xD. I get your point. Well, I guess we'll just have to wait and see for their financials.

Predictions for LT console sales:

PS4: 120M

XB1: 70M

WiiU: 14M

3DS: 60M

Vita: 13M

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Seece on 12 January 2014

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Did you read what I said? There was already 1m on shelves going into the holiday, so Nintendo essentially sold 5.7m~ of the stock they shipped in Q4. Thus if you think they shipped 9m, they have 3.3m on shelves/warehouses. Get it now?

I'm not sure why they're going to ship an extra 1.5m 3DS's, that's a lot.

My apologies, it is pretty late here so I'm a bit slow xD. I get your point. Well, I guess we'll just have to wait and see for their financials.

No problem, and yeah it's gonna be an interesting few weeks!

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jonathanalis on 12 January 2014

depends how many years more nintendo will suport it without launching its sucessor.
It is selling less than GBA, but, GBA had a little lifetime. its sucessor was launched 3 or 4 years after it.
But with the new patters of industry, where a console lasts for much more time(7, 8 or more years), i believe nintendo will not launch its sucessor so soon.
Maybe they will wait wii U complete its lifetime cicle to launch an hybrid console.

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brute on 12 January 2014

What is the total PSP shipment as of September 30th? Because I think they combine of with Vita now, right? I'd like to have an accurate idea on how it is selling and where it officially is to make a prediction, but if say PSP does sell around 82 million total in its life, then it will all depend on how long 3DS is supported, but it will be close between the two, I'd say no more than 5 million will separate the two.

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Zelhawks37 on 12 January 2014

Yes. It will get to 100m.

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TreeTurtle on 12 January 2014

It should outsell the GBA.

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Alby_da_Wolf on 12 January 2014

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supernihilist on 12 January 2014

depends on Nintendo and their future plans and the willingness to put SW out for it. At least it will do comparable numbers. From that point it only can go up.