Seece said:
benji232 said:
Seece said:
benji232 said:
Seece said:
benji232 said:
October+November+December global data = more then 7.6m units sold. Shipments are usually higher then sell-through data. 1.4M units sitting on storeshelves is far from impossible.
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It's overtracked.
NPD shows around 2.2m, Mediacreate shows around 1.7m, Europe will be on par with US so 2.2m, the rest of the world accounts for 10% of those sales combined. Total comes to 6.7m.
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You're assuming Europe will be equal to the US when the past has always proven otherwise. DS sold a lot more in Europe then they did in the US. Also, when I calculate, we only have it overtracked by 200k in the US which still puts it at 7.4m. May I ask you again, where are you taking those figures except a bunch of assumptions for Europe and "others" and the rest of America.
Anyways, we'll know the figures in 18 days. I am not saying that I'm stating facts, I'm merely stating my opinion here. If we really do have it overtracked by 1m like you're suggesting, then your 7-8m figure for Q4 might be right.
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3DS is not DS. Take a look at this - http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2013/131030e.pdf
3DS LTD as of September 30th
Americas - 11.43m Others - 10.22m
Others = Europe and everywhere else. Americas = US and NA/SA.
You could argue which is bigger, the fact is they're neck and neck and US is probably a better market for 3DS than Europe. Case in point the previous 6 months Americas outshipped Others by 240k. (1.17m to 0.97m).
Also using US, Europe and Japan you can guage (and have been able to for a long time) that every other market makes up 10% of 3DS sales.
So I reiterate.
US is at 2.2m (thanks to NPD we know this), Europe is probably the same, Japan is 1.7m. Plus the 10% elsewhere. The sales are around 6.7m it could fluctuate either way a couple hundred k.
Also like I just said, bare in mind there was stock on shelves end of September. Probably 1m+, of which are part of that 6.7m. So saying you predict 9m shipped is saying you think there is 3.3m on shelves/warehouses.
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9m - 6.7m =/= 3.3m lol. But you even said: "it could fluctuate either way a couple hundred k." meaning that let's say the couple hundred K is above 6.7m and brings it to 7m, were still looking at a 8-8.5m figure.
But anyways, their financial results will be revealed in a matter of days, it's useless to argue over estimates when we will know official numbers in merely 18days.
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Did you read what I said? There was already 1m on shelves going into the holiday, so Nintendo essentially sold 5.7m~ of the stock they shipped in Q4. Thus if you think they shipped 9m, they have 3.3m on shelves/warehouses. Get it now?
I'm not sure why they're going to ship an extra 1.5m 3DS's, that's a lot.
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My apologies, it is pretty late here so I'm a bit slow xD. I get your point. Well, I guess we'll just have to wait and see for their financials.