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Will PS4 total sales ever be more than that of Xbox One?

Yes 210 72.92%
 
No 78 27.08%
 
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S.T.A.G.E. on 11 January 2014
enrageorange said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
RolStoppable said:
Yes, easily.

If Sony fails to accomplish that, then it will be just as pathetic as the 360 finishing in third place.


360 came in third place because of their weakness, which is first party. They threw everything at Sony and Sony still prevailed over them even though they both lost to Nintendo. If Microsoft cannot beat Sony's first party this gen they might as well just buy out as many companies as humanly possible match Sony's amount of hits.

Sony won on brand name. They did indeed have the better gaming library the past few years, but it didn't matter even when they didn't. Just look at 2007.
These were the well recieved exclusives that year
360 PS3
Halo 3 Uncharted
Bioshock(at the time) Motorstorm
Crackdown Heavenly Sword
Forza 2
Mass Effect
Project Gotham Racing 4

The 360 had more and the better exclusives by every measurable metric and it still got outsold that year. Sony was able to sell consoles on brand name alone.


I do think the ps4 will outsell the Xbox one by a greater margin than the ps3 will end up outselling the 360, but it will still be pretty close. The most hardcore gamers that voted in online gaming polls favored the ps4 2.5 to 1. The dedicated audience that bought their console the first year favored the ps4 1.25 to 1. Once the audience expands even more sales could get even closer if Microsoft plays their cards right.

Sony's big chance to capitalize though is that multiplatforms have so far ran better on the ps4. Last generation something like 90% of all games sold on the hd twins were multiplatform. These were the biggest IPs of each console.
360 PS3
1. Call of Duty 1. Call of Duty
2. Halo 2. Fifa
3. Grand Theft Auto 3. Grand Theft Auto
4. Fifa 4. Assassin's Creed
5. Assassin's Creed 5. Uncharted

If sony manages to bring mass market awareness about the multiplatform dispilarity it could be huge and the ps4 could indeed double One sales. I suspect other than price, the biggest reason microsoft managed to take a significant amount of the core audience from sony is simply because multiplatform games ran better on the 360 for the most part. 

Basically this gen compared to last gen the ps4 benefits from having the better multiplatform titles, having the lower price, and launching at the same time. It's disadvantage is that now brand awareness between playstation and xbox is much closer and now both consoles have pay to play online. 


Sony has a strong foothold by name, but sales were slow because Microsoft stepped in on their third party showing by having the same games and having them earlier, while keeping other third party games away for Sony for what..a year to three years?  Possibly even longer for some games. Microsoft since the first Xbox has had a strong foothold in America. I know which games were heavy hitters on the PS3, but Sony's exclusives were another decider.  Sony never had the "better" multiplatform titles (especially graphically speaking). A multiplatform title is only a multiplatform title. It can be played anywhere applicable. Sony has been advancing on Microsoft since the start and took a eight million console lead down to two million in a five year time frame. Microsoft forced Sony to dig deeper within themselves than they ever have before and build more high quality first party games. Once Sony did that Microsoft was at a loss. Kinect couldn't save them. It only delayed the inevitable, especially at the end.



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existenz2 on 11 January 2014

Yes, but they need some blockbuster titles ..



Serious_frusting on 11 January 2014

gonna have to see january sales first



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Slimebeast on 11 January 2014

Well, according to Ethomaz the PS4 will have reached 7 million sold by end of March 2014, and Seece seems to believe Xbone will soon be struggling down there together with Wii U for 500K quarterly sales so going by that the Xbone will only have reached roughly 3.5 million by end of March.

That's 7 million versus 3.5 million, you do the math.



Hynad on 11 January 2014
gergroy said:
I can see it happening at some point this year, but it wont last. They will even out somewhat in sales if microsoft can get the x1 in price parity with the ps4. Until then, I expect the ps4 will outsell the x1 pretty easily. Not saying the x1 wont sell well, because it will. I just think there are too many things going in sonys favor to not dominate early on.


One would assume this scenario would happen if Sony doesn't go for a price cut around that time as well. Of course.



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gergroy on 11 January 2014
Hynad said:
gergroy said:
I can see it happening at some point this year, but it wont last. They will even out somewhat in sales if microsoft can get the x1 in price parity with the ps4. Until then, I expect the ps4 will outsell the x1 pretty easily. Not saying the x1 wont sell well, because it will. I just think there are too many things going in sonys favor to not dominate early on.


One would assume this scenario would happen if Sony doesn't go for a price cut around that time as well. Of course.

if the ps4 is still selling well, there would be no need to price cut.  However, even if they did, the systems will eventually achieve price parity, as you have seen with this generation.  



DestructorSVK on 11 January 2014

Yeah, soon. Although it will be irelevant at later time..



IsawYoshi on 11 January 2014

Should be after the japanese launch of the PS4, but I doubt it'll last.



IsawYoshi on 11 January 2014

Edit: Ahh.. the famed double post. I knew it would happen to me eventually.



enrageorange on 11 January 2014
S.T.A.G.E. said:
enrageorange said:


Sony has a strong foothold by name, but sales were slow because Microsoft stepped in on their third party showing by having the same games and having them earlier, while keeping other third party games away for Sony for what..a year to three years?  Possibly even longer for some games. Microsoft since the first Xbox has had a strong foothold in America. I know which games were heavy hitters on the PS3, but Sony's exclusives were another decider.  Sony never had the "better" multiplatform titles (especially graphically speaking). A multiplatform title is only a multiplatform title. It can be played anywhere applicable. Sony has been advancing on Microsoft since the start and took a eight million console lead down to two million in a five year time frame. Microsoft forced Sony to dig deeper within themselves than they ever have before and build more high quality first party games. Once Sony did that Microsoft was at a loss. Kinect couldn't save them. It only delayed the inevitable, especially at the end.

That's one of the big reasons I believe xbox caught up to playstation this generation.

The average gamer this generation isn't someone with 30 games, 15 of which are exclusive.
The average xbox 360 owner has 10.74 games, 2.1 of which are exclusive. The average ps3 owner has 9.74 games 1.7 of which are exclusive.
 

This generation 15 of the 20 best selling ps3 games were multiplatform.
Last generation 9 of the 20 best selling ps2 games were multiplatform. 3 timed exclusives
Before that 0 of the 20 best selling playstation games were multiplatform.

Another example. Sony first party games sold 211mil on the playstation and it had very strong third party exclusive support(150mil+ third party exclusive software sales). Sony first party games sold 187million on the playstation 2 and it had very strong third party exclusive support (150mil+ third party exclusive software sales). Sony first party games sold 128mil on the playstation 3 and it's only relevent third party exclusive was Metal Gear Solid 4. 

The last two gens people bought playstations for their exclusives which is why sony thrashed the competition. This gen sony failed the secure the third party games people wanted and didn't pick up the slack with their first party exclusives, which is why the playstation had 72% of the console marketshare, the playstation 2 had 78% of the console marketshare, and the playstation 3 only had 31% of the console marketshare.

But the thing is Microsoft wasn't much better off than Sony. It secured very few major third party exclusives, and it's first party software sales weren't much better than sony's. The majority of people mostly bought multiplatform titles. So why did the 360 manage to catch up so much despite gaming libraries being identical for most people. Because the third party games ran better and the price difference. The price difference was negated for many people by sony having free online gaming. But the multiplatform difference wasn't negated till much later on. That is why a significant amount of playstation 2 owners moved to the xbox 360 instead of the ps3 despite the fact that they could have played the games they are playing right now on the playstation 3 instead.